IANAL but the way I read the EU salary transparency (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/pay-transparency/) says nothing about reporting individual people’s salaries. The goal of the directive isn’t eliminating nepotism but closing the gender gap.
Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) > On 6. 11. 2025, at 9:24, Niels ten Oever <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 11/6/25 2:58 PM, Clément Cavadore via ripe-list wrote: >> We, in Europe, usually have different opinions from Americans about salaries >> and privacy. What you strongly think about this is not what others parties >> think, and you should respect that, as RIPE is european. > > I am a bit surprised about the sentiment that salary transparency would be a > North American thing, since the EU Directive on Equal Pay Through Pay > Transparency and Enforcement Mechanisms has been adopted in 2023, and is in > effect since this year [0][1]. > > Best, > > Niels > > [0] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2023/970/oj/eng > [1] https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_881 > > >> Kind regards, >> Clément Cavadore >> Le 6 novembre 2025 14:30:01 GMT+01:00, Roderick Beck >> <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> It is not illegal. Privacy is not an absolute right. The annual salary of >>> Orange's CEO is 2.67 million Euros. Most countries require that publicly >>> traded companies disclose the salaries of senior management. They are >>> accountable to their investors and the general public. Just as RIPE senior >>> management should be accountable to the ISPs for which they work. You can't >>> have accountability when the people in charge only disclose the aggregate >>> figure in order to shield from scrutiny. >>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 2:07 PM Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It’s also illegal in EU as far as I can tell. Individuals can disclose >>>> their salaries, but it can’t be mandated by the employer. >>>> >>>> Personally, I can’t see any good outcome of that and I care about the good >>>> job that the RIPE/RIPE NCC does and I trust the people in charge to make >>>> rational decisions about the salaries. >>>> >>>> Ondrej >>>> -- >>>> Ondřej Surý (He/Him) >>>> >>>> On 6. 11. 2025, at 7:40, Roderick Beck <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> That's not a good argument. Disclosure of individual salaries is de facto >>>> the global standard for transparency. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Roderick. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 1:06 PM Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2025 at 07:31:27PM +0100, Roderick Beck wrote: >>>>>> In the US all non-profits must disclose the individual salaries of >>>>> senior >>>>>> management. RIPE does not even though it functions effectively as a >>>>>> nonprofit. I think more transparency is due in this respect given that >>>>> RIPE >>>>>> is also a monopoly and has a budget of $40 million versus $33 million >>>>> for >>>>>> ARIN and twice as many employees and contractors as ARIN. >>>>> >>>>> We are not in the US... >>>>> >>>>> Gert Doering >>>>> -- NetMaster >>>>> -- >>>>> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? >>>>> >>>>> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, >>>>> Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler >>>>> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann >>>>> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) >>>>> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Roderick Beck >>>> Network Capacity Sourcing - Broker >>>> Mobile: 00-36-70-605-5144. >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Articles: https://subseacables.blogspot.com/ >>>> Telegram: @RoderickBeck >>>> Tallinn & Budapest. >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, >>>> please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/ripe-list.ripe.net/ >>>> As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with >>>> the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. >>>> More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ >>>> >>>> >>> > > -- > Niels ten Oever, PhD > Co-Principal Investigator - critical infrastructure lab - University of > Amsterdam > Assistant Professor - Department of European Studies - University of Amsterdam > > W: https://criticalinfralab.net > W: https://nielstenoever.net > PGP: 4254 ECD5 D4CF F6AF 8B91 0D9F EFAD 2E49 CC90 C10C > > ----- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, > please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/ripe-list.ripe.net/ > As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the > email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. More > details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/
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