pfarrell Wrote: 
> 
> I didn't catch that you see this as being online.
> Accessible with some suitable CGI or WebApp?
> 
> 
> The least amount of work would be to open up the database for remote
> access (using, for example, JDBC or ODBC).  CGI or a WebApp would be
> more work but would give us more control.
> 
> > pfarrell Wrote: 
> > 
> > Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No.9, Op.125 "Choral" in d Minor is just
> > one of the ways to list it.
> > 
> > 
> > The format of the title of the composition is not an issue here.   The
> > data goes into three columns:
> > 
> > Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
> > Composition name: Symphony No.9 "Choral"
> > Opus: 125
> > Key: D Minor
> > 
> > The users can all select their own format for the track title.
> > For example, 
> > 
> > %c(f l): %t, Op.%o in %k
> > 
> > Might then tag the track as per your suggestion.  Another user might
> > not want the composer's first name or the key signature in the track
> > title.  That would be no problem - the user simply edits the track
> > title format to "%c(l): %t, Op.%o".
> > 
> > I note that you place the opus between the symphony number and the
> > symphony name.  This suggests we are perhaps going to need more
> > columns, and split the composition name into:
> > 
> > form: Symphony
> > number: 9
> > name: Choral
> > 
> > I did not do this to keep things simpler, but if we do this, this gives
> > us even better searching capabilities (e.g. "find all symphonies in d
> > Minor" would be a very simple SQL query).
> > 
> > > > Robin Bowes Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Have you seen http://musicbrainz.org ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I had not.  It does seem they are doing a large part of what I would
> > > like to have done, so I really appreaciate that you referred me to
> > > their site.  What they are not doing is separating the database from
> > > the tagging.  My idea is that the database is far less flat.  For
> > > example, my idea is that a single record exists for each composition. 
> > > Any performance of that composite has a foreign key to that record - it
> > > does not duplicate the information.  For example, any CD that has a
> > > performance of Beethoven's ninth would simply say "tracks 2 thru 5 are
> > > Beethoven's ninth".  If someone changes the data for Beethoven's ninth
> > > (say, they add the key "in D minor" which has not been previously
> > > entered) then that information would then automatically retroactively
> > > appear on all prior CD's that contain a performance of the work.  This
> > > is very important to get my searches right.  If I search for a list of
> > > pieces by Beethoven, I would want his ninth to appear just once in the
> > > list.  Only if I select it and I have more than one performance should
> > > I see I list of performances (orchestra/conductor/choir).
> > > 
> > > It may well be that I am better off working on adding this sort of
> > > functionality to musicbrainz, rather than duplicating the useful bits
> > > that they have done.
> > > 
> > > I will have to look more at musicbrainz.  It may be that the program I
> > > have to extract the data (composer, movement number, opus, key
> > > signature etc. etc.) from the freedb database could be obsolete, or at
> > > least a lot easier if we extract from the more consistent musicbrainz
> > > database.
> > > 
> > > > > > Browny Wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Don't know if this would be of interest to you:
> > > > 
> > > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19451
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It seems to me that we are trying to do different things.  I am
> > > > interested in the consistency of the data.  The scanning times are not
> > > > an issue for me as I don't really care if it takes all night.  However,
> > > > your work in using the database more rather than the tags may help with
> > > > the consistency of the data.


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