Adventurous indeed, Wayne. Thanks for the info.
I'm actually hoping for something that can be executed easily by Mr. or Ms.
John Q. DUH!, who only has to lay down a dry voice track ("The Pitney Volunteer
Fire Department is having a pancake breakfast this Sunday at the firehouse. Be
there. Thanks, WXXX!"). On playback, RD handles the wraparound elements so the
listener hears:
CART 1: Music + anncr: "Here's news from the WXXX Community Calendar."
(music ducks and continues as underscore)
CART 2: "The Pitney Volunteer ... Thanks WXXX!"
(End of Cart 2 triggers Cart 3 & fast-fades Cart 1)
CART 3: Zap FX, anncr: "WXXX, caring about our community."
I'm going to try it a few different ways over the weekend, but so far its
looking like Cart 1 goes on the panel, Cart 2 and Cart 3 are in the log, and a
couple of RML macros take care of tripping and fading Cart 1 on the panel. I'd
like to be able to keep all the elements together for the benefit of "linear
thinkers" who used to do this with a stack of three actual tape carts, but I'll
take what I can get.
Always ready to hear more good ideas.
-ap
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Merricks" <[email protected]>
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System"
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:38:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [RDD] Community BB with Music Bed Underscore
Apologies for the lack of clarity. You should be able to put those 3 mock
carts into the main log. You'd just have to be mindful that potentially
someone could trigger them out of order.
How about a completely different approach. Set up a custom drop box
outside of Rivendell that runs a script via cron (or make your own daemon).
The script would just need to run sox to mix it all together and then copy
the file into a normal rivendell drop box for import.
I'd guess you would want the following:
Audio Files:
* 3 seconds of silence
* The Sting
* The Bed (pre ducked although I think you can duck in sox too if you're
adventurous)
Steps for the script:
1. Normalise the vocal with sox --norm
2. Sox combine 3 seconds of silence with vocal
3. Sox read info from the new vocal to get the duration of the file
4. make a copy of the bed
5. Sox trim the bed to the duration of the file from step 3 (maybe trim +
1 second?)
6. Sox combine bed with sting
7. Sox mix vocal with new bed + sting
8. Copy to Rivendell drop box
More info on some of the nice stuff sox can do over here (pretty much
every step there is one of the examples from this page):
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/sound-exchange-sox-15-examples-to-manipulate-audio-files/
You could get really fancy and do automated checking to make sure the
vocal didn't exceed the length of the bed however I'm not sure how you'd
fade up the bed after the vocal finished if you wanted to do that before
the sting started.
Regards,
Wayne
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:21:01 -0000, Alan Peterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Certainly is sound thinking (pardon the pun), but I want to try to keep
> everything in one log. The college station where I moonlight can do this
> on an old Scott Studios system, so I know its possible. I just don't
> know how its being done in SS (station manager won't let me get very
> close to the rig).
>
> Keeping things simple, I plan on just dipping the level of the music
> itself before carting it up. So rather than clutter things up with a
> level duck, the fade is identical every time.
>
> And who wants to be known as a clutterducker?
>
> -ap
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Merricks" <[email protected]>
> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:23:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Community BB with Music Bed Underscore
>
> Your logic seems good to me, I assume the vocal can be of varying
> lengths.
>
> Playlist with 3 carts:
>
> CART 1 - MACRO :
> 1. Bed Start Macro
> 2. Wait for 3 seconds
>
> CART 2 - Dry Vocal
>
> CART 3 - MACRO :
> 1. Stop Bed
> 2. Fire Stinger
> 3. Wait for Length of Sting
>
> Ducking in the bed would be easier as its less macro lines but you could
> also just use the duck macro:
>
> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Rml.sxw_-_Rivendell_Macro_Language_v1.0.0#SET_DUCK_LEVEL
>
> You'd have to put the duck on line 3 of cart 1 to duck down (maybe wait
> for 2 seconds instead of 3 to allow for a 1 second fade down on the duck)
> and then another at the start of cart 3 to reset back to 0.
>
> I think you'd have to have the bed on the aux log as the ducks work on
> the
> log machines (I've never tried doing it on the sound panel but there is a
> way of specifying an mport that might be what you're after).
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:51:30 -0000, Alan Peterson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember this being discussed sometime back, but don't know
>> where to look for it. Please indulge me if so...
>>
>> I would like to run "community calendar" material with a music
>> underscore and a stinger outro, but the voice needs to be recorded dry
>> and the music added in on playout (not during production of the voice
>> recording). How do I make it so that:
>>
>> 1) A music bed starts, then ducks (the ducking can be part of the
>> produced bed and not executed as a volume macro)
>> 2) After 3 secs the spoken message plays over the ducked music
>> 3) At the end of the spoken message a stinger/liner is fired, which also
>> dumps out the music bed.
>>
>> I'm thinking the music bed should be on a panel and fired in the primary
>> log as an RML PP event, followed by a Sleep 3000 command and the voice
>> recording, all in the main log. Now to do the sting ending, would it
>> make more sense to put the closing stinger itself in as a cart/event in
>> the Main log, or to also put it on the Panel and run another PP for its
>> firing in the Main log? Either way, I have to put in a fade somewhere to
>> drop out the music bed.
>>
>> The same process could be used to intro and underscore prerecorded
>> weather announcements.
>>
>> If you know where the prior discussion is on this, please point me that
>> way. Otherwise, how would you handle this? Maybe in the voice tracker?
>>
>> Thanks ahead of time.
>>
>> -AP
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