I have set a program to expire tonight and instructed the presenter to 
let the "invalid cart" play anyway to see what happens. They had been 
dumping them when they see invalid cart. I suspect that if it tries to 
play what it thhought was an invalid cart at midnight when it loaded, 
but it now has a valid cut (put in by rdcatch after midnight) that it 
will play the cut. Am I thinking wrong here? My reasoning is that they 
show up invalid in the log on monday but I check in RDlibrary and it 
says it played. I also just ran a playout report and it says that 
programs before the first airshift played.

So I think we have an operator problem not a software problem.

Would be nice if someone could tell me wether auto refresh log setting 
would detect the valid cuts and not have the carts show as invalid, 
which freaks the presenters out. Apparently when an invalid cart with a 
timed start(Make Next) plays it will cut of the song thats playing at 
the time it is scheduled, ignoring the make next instruction. I heard it 
do this this morning because we do have one truly invalid cart....Is 
that a bug?

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 3/4/2013 3:19 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
> BY the way offsetting in RDcatch offsets the start date as well, so
> that's no good.
>
> Nathaniel C. Steele
> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>
> On 3/4/2013 2:50 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> That's the case, so will the cart play or not? I just found out that
>> they skip them when they come up red, because it messes up the music if
>> there actually is no cut in the cart. I've told them not to do that and
>> see what happens. I also went up there a little while ago and looked and
>> the only thing I see Invalid, actually is invalid so I don't know what's
>> going on now. You get told one thing (I"m not in that early in the
>> morning), and then have to figure out what's really going on.
>>
>> Thing is, why would it only be on monday? oh, because fridays cuts are
>> expierd by that time ( they get imported with a end date 2 days after
>> the start date, that's the way the programs come, it's in the cart chunk
>> data.....Maybe if I offset the end time by one more day....
>>
>> Nathaniel C. Steele
>> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
>> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>>
>> On 3/4/2013 2:13 PM, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
>>> Maybe the log is not refreshed when the cart is updated with today's
>>> content... Is that cart playing on the same day that it is downloaded?
>>> I suspect that when your log is loaded at midnight, the cart is not
>>> yet available, so at that time it was invalid.
>>>
>>> On 4 March 2013 13:16, Nathan Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Every monday (i'm told) we have programs that do not play (all of them).
>>>> these programs are downloaded into RD by RDCATCH between 1 am and 2 am.
>>>> this is done monday-friday, but only mondays seem to fail.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at todays log and all the programs are red saying invalid cart,
>>>> but When I look at the carts in RDlibrary, I don't see what is invalid
>>>> about them and it says it played once today. I will have to actually
>>>> listen for the next one and see if it really plays or if the host's just
>>>> think it didn't play beause it says invalid cart. but....Why does it say
>>>> invalid cart anyway? I see no issues with start/end dates or dayparting,
>>>> and the carts are there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
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