Ah, so it's a particular implementation of an audio logger.  Got it.  Thanks!

Brian

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On May 23, 2013, at 8:26 AM, drew Roberts <z...@100jamz.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 May 2013 18:30:00 Brian McKelvey wrote:
>> What's a rotter?
> 
> http://www.aelius.com/njh/rotter/
> 
> Something some of us use or have used in a station setup to record things for 
> a record of what played.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> drew
>> 
>> On May 21, 2013, at 3:13 PM, drew Roberts <z...@100jamz.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 21 May 2013 14:37:09 Fred Gleason wrote:
>>>> On May 21, 2013, at 13:53 39, drew Roberts wrote:
>>>>> I am still a bit comfused though. Isn't a macro basically something in
>>>>> a macro cart that would need to "play" for anything to happen?
>>>> 
>>>> That is one way RML can be used.  It can also be executed
>>>> asynchronously, outside of any log context.  That's what rmlsend(1) is
>>>> all about.  It can also be generated within the system in response to
>>>> various user-defined events (e.g. see RDAdmin->ManageHosts->RDAirPlay).
>>> 
>>> I knew this but was not remembering it when writing. I think possibly
>>> because I have had little need for it in the past.
>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 18:27 35, drew Roberts wrote:
>>>>> Let's call this modified now and next feature "full now and next" and
>>>>> it will be now and next for every audio event that goes on air and
>>>>> perhaps we will need some non-playout audio events to handle live reads
>>>>> for instance.
>>>> 
>>>> Hence RML.  That's how we handle 'non-playout audio events'.  A 'full
>>>> now and next' compliant system merely needs to send the appropriate RML
>>>> to Rivendell.
>>> 
>>> Now I know we are officially miscommunicating. Probably because of:
>>> 
>>> "Either I was unclear in my explanation (very possible)"
>>> 
>>> OK, so I was more talking of things in the log that are say a stop for a
>>> live read, etc. (not sure what etc would be exactly atm) and that the log
>>> would know of but would not normally send a regular now and next for.
>>> Also commercials which one we would  not normally wanting showing in our
>>> regular now and next processing. We don't want them in the stream
>>> metadata or on the web page, etc.
>>> 
>>> I think I can see how the RML feature you mention would also be useful
>>> for things which the outside knows of that the log does not. I was
>>> thinking more of things that the log does know of but which should not go
>>> to a normal now and next and may not even be carted audio.
>>> 
>>>> On May 21, 2013, at 13:53 39, drew Roberts wrote:
>>>>> Or is this going to be a rivendell loadable module? (Where going is
>>>>> defined here as may or may not happen... ~;-)
>>>> 
>>>> RLMs come in at the other end of the pipe -- they're all about how PAD
>>>> gets delivered.  I'm talking about ways to *trrigger* a PAD delivery,
>>>> independent of the context of a given log machine.
>>> 
>>> Is that any clearer now? Does anyone think this might be useful?
>>> 
>>> So in one config, rdairplay sends this complete now and next to a special
>>> rotter. The special rotter saves hour by hour as normal to one directory
>>> tree as normal but also saves named audio (name based on now and next
>>> title and artist + start time?) with duration based on now and next time
>>> and duration of the now (duration of the now or cut off when the next
>>> becomses the now?) in a different directory. In this config we would then
>>> have a directory full of files that contain teh playout day broken out by
>>> what played when.
>>> 
>>> IN another take on the config, the special rotter could save as a normal
>>> rotter and also save an edit decision list and then another web page
>>> could show the edl and pull the audio to a created file on demand based
>>> on the edl and the stored audio.
>>> 
>>> I spent some time a while back working on a hacked together edl player
>>> (IIRC based on vlc) but that was more for listening based on the edl
>>> rather than pulling audio out based on it.
>>> 
>>> all the best,
>>> 
>>> drew
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