Regards,
Tommy House

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Scheduling odds (Hoggins!)
>   2. Getting Started: Ubuntu 14.04.02 / ASI 5211 (Nicholas Young)
>   3. Re: (no subject) (drew Roberts)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 00:13:42 +0100
> From: "Hoggins!" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [RDD] Scheduling odds
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> Hello,
> 
> I had reported something like that several times on this list, but
> nothing really obvious : some carts scheduled one after another,
> although they should not.
> 
> I just ran into an example. these two carts were scheduled just next to
> each other :
> 
>    Cochon Ville (Jupiter's Indian Summer Remix) - S?bastien Tellier
>    Cochon Ville (Dabruck & Klein Remix) - S?bastien Tellier
> 
> How on Earth is it possible ? There was no scheduler rule involved.
> 
> Thank you for your hints.
> 
>    Hoggins!
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> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 18:16:49 -0600
> From: Nicholas Young <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [RDD] Getting Started: Ubuntu 14.04.02 / ASI 5211
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> I'm a recent convert to the world of Rivendell, and trying to make
> everything work together in harmony. So far, Ubuntu doesn't see the ASI
> card, and neither does Rivendell. I'm hoping someone on the list can
> provide insight.
> 
> *Software/Drivers:*
> Ubuntu Linux, 14.04.02
> ASI HPI 4.14.03
> JACK 3.1.1
> 
> *Hardware:*
> AudioScience ASI 5211
> 
> I've blacklisted PulseAudio, and generally followed James Harrison's guide
> on Installing Rivendell for Ubuntu:
> http://www.talkunafraid.co.uk/2011/02/installing-rivendell-on-ubuntu/ .
> Still, even after browsing various message boards, no luck.
> 
> Once this system is functioning properly, my preferred signal chain is:
> 
> *Output:*
> Rivendell -> ASI Card -> Analog Out to Mixer
> 
> *Input:*
> Mixer -> ASI Card -> JACK -> StereoTool -> liquidsoap
> 
> * Do I need the HPI drivers at all? Rivendell currently sees that they are
> installed, but are inactive.
> * Jack fails to start. (jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r 48000 -n3 -s). It apparently
> sees the HDMI out of my video card (NVidia Quadro K420), and "falls back to
> capture mode."
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Nicholas
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 08:45:14 -0400
> From: drew Roberts <[email protected]>
> To: Ryan Kingham <[email protected]>
> Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
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> So, where does shoutcast "send" the stream? Directly to listeners? Or is it
> relayed by a stream host provider? How important is being in the shoutcast
> directory to you?
> 
> Unless your answers to some of those questions are super important to you,
> if it was me, I would likely drop the winamp/shoutcast machine out of the
> picture completely.
> 
> Put liquidsoap (Fred recommends glasscoder iirc, but I haven't had the
> chance to mess with it and get comfortable yet) and icecast directly on the
> rivendell machine.
> 
> Send audio out of the Rivendell machine to the board. Take audio into the
> Riv machine from the board. (Likely multiple outs and ins if it can be done
> with the hardware you have and depending on your needs.
> 
> The audio that rdairplay plays goes out to the board, gets mixed there with
> whatever else is going into the board. The mixed audio comes out of hte
> board and goes back into the rivendell machine. The incoming audio goes to
> liquidsoap which sends it to icecast (you might be able to run shoutcast on
> linux if you must) and then out to a stream host provider (I have used and
> been happy with Museter.) The server at the stream host will pull the
> stream from the icecast server on the rivendell machine. Your listeners
> tune in to your station at the stream host provided server.
> 
> If you go with a provider like Museter, you can get an icecast or a
> shoutcast server on their end even if you have an icecast server on your
> end. That way, the world sees you as having a shoutcast server if that is
> important to you so that you can be in the shoutcast directory while
> icecast is living on your local box.
> 
> -----
> 
> Let's say we are not going to drop the winamp / shoutcast machine out of
> the mix.
> 
> Configure the rivendell machine with the icecast rlm and point it to the
> shoutcast server on the winamp / shoutcast machine. You are basically done.
> You just need to make sure you are not sending metadata when the rdairplay
> channel on the board is muted and other audio is going out but rdairplay is
> not stopped.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running Winamp/Shoutcast on 1 machine to receive the audio from my
>> radioshack audio board and receive metadata coming from my rivendell
>> machine. Two different types of data being sent out (Metadata and
>> Audio Output from a board) going from my rivendell machine and going
>> into my winamp/shoutcast computer...
>> I'm not good with using icecast. I have tried that before and it
>> hasn't worked with me so well. Would I be installing icecast onto my
>> rivendell machine to send it to the localhost to retransmit the data?
> 
> I do not suggest using icecast in this way.
> 
> Just to clear something up for possible future replies. In anything I have
> spoken of, winamp is not used at all. Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
>> Not trying to get you frustrated or anything...Just trying to clarify
> 
> all the best,
> 
> drew
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On 3/7/15, drew Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Ryan, you are still not giving enough detailed information.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Because I'm using all of the Winamp/Shoutcast materials to broadcast
>>>> out to Radionomy, that I want to stream out my metadata from rdairplay
>>>> to my winamp/shoutcast machine and set up the audio the way i have to
>>>> set it up
>>> 
>>> What is running on the Winamp/Shoutcast machine?
>>> 
>>> Winamp and shoutcast? Or just winamp and shoutcast is running somewhere
>>> else?
>>> 
>>> If the machine is running both winamp and shoutcast, you may be able to
>>> have the icecast rlm I mentioned update the shoutcast server for you.
>>> 
>>> Why would you be running winamp in this situation at all?
>>> 
>>> It seems like you could drop that machine from the setup completely and
>> use
>>> the rivendell machine to do the whole job. Or at least just use shoutcast
>>> only on that machine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> It's like asking (mathematical wise) How do I send Metadata (X) to
>>>> send through as an IP (Y) for winamp to receive (Z) so that I can
>>>> retransmit the metadata (X) to Radionomy (R)
>>>> I have tried it on my buddys stream, on a local network and it worked,
>>>> but his stream was set up and running already... if you know what im
>>>> saying
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> The Rivendell application would be sending the metadata to the windows
>>>>> xp/streaming machine
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/6/15, drew Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Ryan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is an planned map (see picture attached)
>>>>>>>> run metadata as a .pls form (or something similar) and audio
>> through
>>>>>>>> it as through soundcard
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is still unclear to me exactly what you are planning. I am going
>>>> make
>>>>>>> some assumptions and give answers based on them. I will also ask
>> some
>>>>>>> questions in case the assumptions are off base, you can perhaps
>> clear
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If this was me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rivendell PC running rdairplay.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would  be running icecast on the streaming pc. I would be running
>>>>>>> liquidsoap or darkice on the streaming pc. (These days, liquidsoap.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The liquidsoap on the streaming pc would take the audio from the
>> line
>>>> in
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the streaming pc and send it to the icecast server on the same
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would configure the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine to send
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> metadata to the icecast server on the streaming pc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not sure what you mean by iPod Stream. I am going to assume you
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> audio played from files stored on an iPod.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There would be no metadata going out from this and no metadata going
>>>> out
>>>>>>> when rivednell was no sending audio and the ipod was. (There may be
>>>> some
>>>>>>> tricks to play, but that is a first cut.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> drew
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/15, drew Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you
>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> and perhaps I can help.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> drew
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Ryan Kingham <[email protected]
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> How do i stream my metadata to software like winamp?
>>>>>>>>>> I am starting a new stream up and I am going to use Radionomy to
>>>>>>>>>> broadcast to but it needs metadata information as well....
>>>>>>>>>> (And I'm not going to use RadioDJ if you guys are probably
>>>>>>>>>> insisting)
>>>>>>>>>> because I have my second computer ready to stream my stuff to
>>>>>>>>>> Radionomy....
>>>>>>>>>> Thank's!!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you
>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> and perhaps I can help.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> drew
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
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