On 02/29/2016 03:02 PM, Cowboy wrote:

  Especially with music cuts, this old dog with 40+ years background
  in "show biz" doesn't see how anyone in their right mind could ever
  even harbor a possibility that each and every cut would NOT be listened
  to, massaged, and polished to perfection BEFORE being added to the
  final "ON THE AIR" play-out, whatever that is.
  To do anything less is negligent.
well actually our music cuts are imported in an "off air" group, then i go through each of them to :
- check it is what it should be and suffered no corruption of any kind
- set tags (mood, energy, genre, in/out abruptness)
- set start/end/segue markers (the latter of which are set precisely so that transitions occur tightly "in rythm/on beat", or let the song breathe a little or whatever timing is appropriate for that particular song to fit in the flow)
- move it into one of the "on air" music group

And when i do that, the cuts are already all at the same perceived level. That compensates the difference between that soft folk song and this overly compressed and loud garage rock. I don't see why i would not want that. There is no way my ears can be a trustful reference so that manually set levels are constantly appropriate over a period of many years and a collection of thousands of cuts.

I don't see either why i should do any edit to the tracks, like changes in EQ or dynamics ? Even if i often would prefer that record labels send us much less compressed/limited/noise-rectangle tracks, it's not my role to interfere with the mixer/producer/artist's choices in doing such modifications. I understand and do make sure that any king of program that is not music must be finely crafted before going on air. But, music tracks have already been refined by all the people involved in the making of it.
If the song sounds really too bad it's not aired, that's it.
Do i miss something ?

Our operation (like many other community stations this old side of the ocean) has a tight budget and limited human time (weeks lasting only 168h). That's why i let computer do everything that i feel does not need human intervention, ie. most data manutention.

I'm all for making things artisanal, having programming fluctuate depending on seasons and avoiding cold-blind automation, but i don't feel i give up anything in my process (might be wrong though).

Plus we air lots of different songs in vastly different styles, so there is no attempt nor intent to make them sound similar (if that is the purpose of editing music cuts before airing ?) Even if the on-air processor adds a bit of "glue" and homogeneity, it's not set drastically, there's a subtle compromise between respecting original source, getting coverage, avoiding listener fatigue, providing intelligibility / confort, etc. It's not carved in stone either, and is adjusted (mostly towards "less") a few times a year.

I am getting slightly off topic but i am genuinely interested in sharing points of view there. I might learn some things.

Anyway, good to hear that is being there eventually.

  I said it made the wish-list, not the to-do list !
  There's a difference.
  That difference amounts to *if* someone writes the code in a way that
  doesn't break anything else now existing or planed, it will be considered
  for inclusion.
  Otherwise, don't hold your breath.
  The exception would be $$.
  There is nothing in the universe that can't be made to happen given
  enough time, money, or real estate. Pick any two.

Well i'm perfectly aware of that.
Better on the wish list than nowhere, though :)

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