Hello Robert! I thank you for the explanations that made me understand important points about Rivendell and how it is focused.
I had no idea of how hard it is to change a QT version and all the implications that come with it. I've been using Centos and other RHEL variants for a couple of years now as a server operating system (no gui). I may have to tweak some things to make it behavior as my users expect. They've been working on Ubuntu for the last years, but now it's time to upgrade it. I really appreciate all the points you made clear! Thanks! Fernando Della Torre (16) 98137-1240 Em ter., 24 de nov. de 2020 às 00:01, Robert Jeffares < [email protected]> escreveu: > Hi Fernando, > > Rivendell like all open source projects has developer(s) who have to make > decisions, and have people to create and manage code. > > Linux is available in more distributions than you can count, and while > many programs run on many distributions, not all will ever run on all. > > Each distribution has a team who determine how it will function and each > distribution generally has a well stated focus. Same goes with > applications. > > Rivendell's development team have made a decision to build on a stable > platform, currently CentOS 7. CentOS has generally stable versions of > useful algorithms, and the code runs reliably. > > This is important to some thousands of users. > > In the true spirit of open source there are versions maintained for Ubuntu > and Debian, and report of builds on almost all of the possible platforms. > > Inevitably QT4 will reach an end date, and the code may have to be ported > to QT5 or possibly QT6 which will involve a lot of effort because what > worked previously has to be verified as compatible with the new QT or > rebuilt from scratch. > > The Aegean Stables are nothing on this task. > > The new QT will not be like the old QT. Simple changes will create > incompatibilities because the QT coders are not thinking of end users but > end results. > > So what may look easy is probably a bit more complex. I believe it's being > worked on. > > I don't think the goal of Rivendell is to be more visible. I believe it's > purpose is to do a job well, incorporate well reasoned additional features, > and above all maintain reliability. > > This is not about growing the market, this is about keeping things > running. People will come along and be happy to join in. > > All of the distributions you mention have their strong points. You should > be able to get Rivendell to run on any of them, with the fragility that > comes from unheralded upstream changes that improve performance for > something, but nuke Rivendell essentials. > > Rivendell is like a Lada. It may look ugly, and old tech, but it runs on > almost anything, best on one or two platforms, and it gets there. > > I suggest the 'up to date distro like Ubuntu 20.04' may not be as flash as > you imagine. I use Ubuntu elsewhere and have been through several > iterations of stuff not working in "the new version" because this or that > has changed. Finding the people to maintain various releases of Rivendell, > when the basic version works fine, is going to be difficult. There are > people who will make it run on something because they can. But for most > it's "why?". > > You can still contribute to the project I am sure. > > > regards > > Robert > > > On 24/11/20 2:30 pm, Fernando Della Torre wrote: > > Hello folks. > > I've been away for a while and now I've tried to compile Rivendell using > some up to date distro like Ubuntu 20.04 or Mint 20 with no success at all. > It complains about QT4, specially about libqt4-sql-mysql. > > I'm not a dev (I wish I was) but as far as I understand QT4 it is being > retired. > Is there any Rivendell release using QT5 or any newer equivalent ? > > I know it's easy to say and hard to do, but surely Rivendell would have a > larger visibility if it were packed in 2 or more flavors, like RPM and DEB > pointing to all dependencies it needs and ready for the modern distros, > whether Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Fedora, Centos 8, etc. Every time in the past > I had to complite from source and every update was a kind of a pain. > > As I said I wish I was a dev, but I'm just a sysadmin. > > I really appreciate the effort of the entire community working on > Rivendell. Thanks a lot. > > Regards, > Fernando Della Torre > > +55 (16) 98137-1240 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rivendell-dev mailing > [email protected]http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > -- > Communication Consultants 2020 Limited > 64 Warner Park Avenue > Laingholm > Auckland 0604 > New Zealand > > _______________________________________________ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >
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