Sadly enough, we don't live in fairyland so we have to live with the concepts 
of companies needing to make a living ;)

Asking companies to 'just give [improvements] back' completely ignores the 
complexities of the real world. There are lots of reasons why that cannot 
simply be done, and all you can do is to see whether you can be a decent 
community player even without, say, giving away your competitive advantages. I 
think GigaSpaces is at the very least to be commended for their efforts in that 
direction.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Reedy <dennis.re...@gmail.com>
To: river-user@incubator.apache.org <river-user@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Sun Mar 28 04:19:55 2010
Subject: Re: Help on to decode information encapsulated by TCP segment during 
JINI discovery.

Shay,

IMO, if you have benefited from the code, and improved it, give it back to the 
community from which it came from. Of course you are not required to do so, but 
it would make your efforts more approachable.

Regards

Dennis

On Mar 27, 2010, at 1024PM, Shay Hassidim wrote:

> Dennis,
> 
> 
> 
> Our contribution to the community includes vast amount of activities. I
> will list few of them:
> 
> - A community edition product - free of charge to be used in development
> and production. This is the full product that allows users to enjoy our
> enhanced lookup service, transaction manager and a world class
> industrial JavaSpace implementation. This edition allows users to have
> unlimited amount of clients, deploying unlimited amount of POJO/Jini
> services and also have unlimited of local cache nodes. It does limit the
> amount of the JavaSpace nodes to one (i.e. non-clustered). 
> 
> - A start-up program - provides the above without any limitation on the
> JavaSpace cluster size for start-up companies free of charge. It allows
> users also to enjoy the other API's we provide such as JCache, JMS, JDBC
> API and also our C++ and .Net JavaSpace API libraries. I must admit the
> .Net JavaSpace has a huge success.
> 
> - 100% of the client code is open source - It is provided as part of the
> product distribution. This includes top quality documentation and allows
> users to learn our client internals and debug it in case of problems.
> Users also often use this code to enhance our built-in capabilities to
> be customized for their specific needs.
> 
> - Public forum - Allows users to submit questions and get answers
> directly from engineering and our architects around the world free of
> charge.
> 
> - Promoting other open source products we use - these includes Spring ,
> Jetty , Hibernate , Maven , your Rio project and others.
> 
> - www.openspaces.org <http://www.openspaces.org/>  - a site that allows
> users to host their open source projects. The projects build around our
> JavaSpace implementation. 
> 
> 
> 
> See more details here: http://www.gigaspaces.com/communitycontribution
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see, there are very few companies around the world that
> promotes Jini/JavaSpaces as GigaSpaces. 
> 
> 
> 
> Contributing the specific code we have created to enhance the Jini
> components would involve submitting also our proprietary communication
> protocol technology and other components that provide us uniqueness when
> competing with other products on the market. When having such a
> competitive environment in a very hot market, I'm not sure it makes
> sense to do so.
> 
> 
> 
> Shay
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Reedy [mailto:dennis.re...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:19 PM
> To: river-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Help on to decode information encapsulated by TCP segment
> during JINI discovery.
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Shay,
> 
> 
> 
> Why dont you just contribute them to the community? Or do you want to
> continue to just take from open source and not give back?
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2010, at 725PM, Shay Hassidim wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> What a great write up Jim.
> 
>> 
> 
>> GigaSpaces has improved some of the reggie internals to be more
> scalable
> 
>> and faster. 
> 
>> 
> 
>> If you are looking for more info about these enhancements please
> contact
> 
>> me directly.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Best Regards,
> 
>> 
> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
>> Shay Hassidim 
> 
>> Deputy CTO
> 
>> GigaSpaces Technologies
> 
> 
> 

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