Hello David and Roy. Thank you for the quick response!. (too Quick if i may add :-D )
I went thru Roy's code and as you warned, it's really close to what we were looking for, that being, a way to implement tk code at server side for web-enambling the GUI of our tcl app. We will add some some lines, and then we'll mail it back or put it in the Rivet CVS (if Roy agrees, offcourse). Thank you Very much!. we promise it will be handled as a special guest by our hads ;-). Yes, i mentioned php/tk as an example of the kind of bind which would be really useful to have in Rivet in order to implement Web-tk code or make basic tk widgets availiable in web pages. I heard (not seen) that Websh can do some of this... (ej. mind game example at Websh page). Still, we all know a TCL application server, or a way of Web enambling Tcl appz (besides the tcl-plugin) is far away from hitting the road. (would be an interesting project thou... some kind of Jboss in TCL...if you ever taught about it, count me in). We went over the TCL plugin a couple of weeks ago and found out it was somehow insecure for DB issues (since all the conns had to originate from client side). Also, the way security policies apply suggest creating a custom plugin-pack to be distributed to the users (among with the needed tcl packages, since nothing would be executed at server side). As for the Castellano translation of the Rivet Manual, i'd be glad to help :-). I will take the availiable version of the manual from the web and start translating asap, work is allways good when u like what you do ;-). A channel to the dev-team would be nice, it'll sing up right away to the Rivet-dev mail. Glad to be in touch! Grazie ancora Pedro Manuel Guillem S&S Bayes Forecast - Madrid http://www.bayesforecast.com http://tol-project.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "David N. Welton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roy Keene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pedro Guillem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk > Roy Keene wrote: > > I once began a Tcl/Tk under Tcl/CGI tool, but never finished it. > > > > It can be seen here: > > http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/tkweb.tcl.htm > > > > I wrote it years ago so I don't remember anything about it, but it does > > work for some basic things. > > > > Good luck with that. > > > Roy Keene > > Planning Systems Inc > > > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Michael Link wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: "Pedro Guillem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Subject: Rivet/Tk > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello Michael. > >>> > >>> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for > >>> the developement of Rivet. > >>> > >>> My name is Pedro Guillem, > >>> > >>> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business > >>> Intelligence consutant in Madrid, Spain. > >>> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time Oriented > >>> Language) www.tol-project.org > >>> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the > >>> web for more details and specs. > >>> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS. > >>> > >>> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this > >>> reason, we dediced to implement Rivet to port a > >>> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know > >>> what i mean. > >>> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our > >>> custom made packages. amazing work. > >>> > >>> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet, > >>> for obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console > >>> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt > >>> make any sense. still.. we have a lot of work already > >>> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk. > >>> > >>> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting "tcl > >>> puts" with html code in it. And less possible, display Stochastical > >>> Graphs ... > >>> > >>> My question is: > >>> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html parsing > >>> extension?. kind of like php/tk ?? > >>> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least the > >>> basic ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?. > >>> > >>> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about > >>> this and i taught in asking the source. > >>> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to > >>> your open source compliant spanish companions!! :-) > >>> > >>> Best Regards > >>> > >>> Pedro Manuel Guillem > >>> S&S > >>> Bayes Forecast > >>> Madrid - Spain > >>> > >>> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of rivet > >>> technology. > > [Responding to Roy] > I think actually the one interested in it was Pedro Guillem - if I > understand correctly, Michael Link forwarded his mail on to us at the > rivet-dev list. > > [Responding to Pedro] > Anyway, Pedro, Roy's Tk/CGI thing is pretty snazzy, and worth a look, > but I don't think it's complete...and it's by far the best of that kind > of tool I've seen - I think you'd have to continue his work if you want > to output to the web. > > I'm a bit confused as to just what you want, though - you mention PHP/Tk > - that's just a TK binding for PHP so that you can write GUI's with PHP. > > Something else that's worth checking out that might be what you need is > this, the Tcl browser plugin: > > http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/ > > I'm glad you like Rivet and are happy with it. Anything you'd like to > do to help out is welcome. One possibility would be translating the > manual into Castellano, although that's a big effort and is likely to > mean lots of maintainance work too. The first thing to do in any case > is to get involved by signing up for the rivet-dev mailing list! > > Bienvenido, in any case! > > -- > David N. Welton > - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ > > Linux, Open Source Consulting > - http://www.dedasys.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
