On 03/05/2013, at 01.55, unsp...@hushmail.com wrote:

> On Fri, 03 May 2013 00:23:13 +0200 "A K Varnell" 
> <alvarn...@mac.com> wrote:
>> Just curious whether any of the existing Apache checks will catch 
> this one for Linux users?
> 
> Let's start by emphasizing RKH is a passive, post-incident analysis 
> tool. That means it will only catch "signatures" it knows about, 
> only after it happened and only when you run it. Security (as in 
> hardening, auditing and adjusting) is a continuous process. It 
> should comprise of multiple layers and preferably involve more than 
> one active / passive tool or method. Running RKH does not equal 
> "security": it's just a small part of things. 
> 
> In this case the perp first requires access to be able to drop the 
> file, then elevate rights to be able to replace a root-owned binary 
> and then start the process. While most of CDork is done in shared 
> memory replacing the binary still means package management (if 
> capable enough and not subverted), a file system integrity checker, 
> RKH's properties check or else 'grep -aq open_tty /path/to/httpd && 
> echo changed' should be able to verify it and alert you about 
> changes. Additionally audit service watches or Samhain (because it 
> uses Inotify) and regular log parsing (Logwatch or equivalent) 
> could be added to the mix. Wrt detection also see the 
> http://www.welivesecurity.com/wp-
> content/uploads/2013/04/dump_cdorked_config.c tool.

But how can you trust RKH when the computer is compromised? Or you think just 
it is compromised.

And what is the worth of booting from a known good source, like a rescue CD, 
when RKH can no longer use --rootdir?

Or take a SAN snapshot of your server, mount it inside a another server and 
then use RKH when RKH can no longer use --rootdir?

Or transfer a complete backup, and then run RKH on the backup server on the 
transfered files.


JonB

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