I am. I have (I think anyway...) the latest build, running on an old clunker 400 AMD K6-2 box with 128k of ram, and a boat anchor of a 1.2 gig maxtor drive. And it runs like a champ!
And the best part is, it's faster than my big bad 1gig AMD Athalon Win2k box with 512k and 7200rpm DMA100 drives! Although, it's still slower than my old Red Hat or SuSE boxes were. Oh well... I will say though, that my Granny *could almost* run this distro, so I think it's almost hit the mark. Please Joe, get a market stronghold before AOhell.   Oh, PLEASE!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [rl-users] AOL Buying RedHat?

Hehe. You did. I just couldnt contain myself and had to slap in my £50 worth.
 
Are you using Redmond now? Or whatever it's called. LOL
 
-L
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [rl-users] AOL Buying RedHat?

Yeah... That's what I meant to say!

----- Original Message -----
To: Mike Stoddart
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [rl-users] AOL Buying RedHat?

Dont take this personally (no really dont!) but -

> First, RedHat would get an infusion or resources, both human and
financial.

Thats very true. 10 0000 more PR representatives with synthetic tits and
excellent £1.50 a minute telephone-support answering style.

> Second, the RedHat guys would get rich (hell don't we all dream of that
> sometimes?!)

Who could be-grudge them that. They'd only be selling out Open Source
entirely.
<sarcasm>I mean. I'm sure they presently have aquired nothing in the way of
financial reward to date for distributing other people's intellectual
property. </sarcasm>

> Third, I thought that there was a desire in the Linux public to create a
> distribution that could be used by everyone's grandmother? Isn't that
> partially what Redmond Linux (sorry don't have the announcement to hand)
is
> trying to do?

If your idea of a broadband appeal distribution of anything is as
plastic-wrapped, buggy, shoddy, half-compiled but very colourful crap for
mega bucks then sure. Absolutely. I mean this is LINUX isnt it? Isnt that
what people pursue the (in all fairness not exactly competative at present)
LINUX as a desktop OS for?

As I understand it Redmond is protogenic. I (this is what I understand by
their spin to date) see Redmond as an attempt by experienced LINUX
developers to get more attention shifted away from the server/network end of
LINUX appeal and get more moderately computer literate windows users who
wouldnt otherwise be too interested to suck it and see. Oh, and they want to
make a living from doing it.

What I dont see Redmond as is a sell out of Open Source, a cynical MS clone
(despite the disgusting XP apeing superficially) bent entirely towards
making vast amounts of revenue at minimal expense.

Egad man! AOL is the very epitamy of 'shiny crap'. Nothing they do is good
for the internet or freedom of expression, freedom of choice. They are
un-democratic through their Borg like assimilation tactics, their
advertising alone is subversive, misguiding, propogandist and patronizing.
If that represents what they'd do with a brand like Red Hat Lord only knows.
Companies like AOL were the ones who brought you 'healthy' option TV Dinners
and 'healthy' cigarettes.

Nothing they do is for the good of anything but their own bank-balance,
thats fine. Thats capitalism. Thats not nor hopefully never will be LINUX.
If a major mega-corp got posession of a major LINUX distributer they would
just out-finance anyone else in Open Source. Within 5 years there would only
be one, maybe two distros and at least ONE of them 'AOL LINUX' would
certainly be utterly crap and cynically loaded so that they could oblige
their 'free sharing' policy by letting people download alpha crap and 'test'
it for them by doing so. The 'good' stuff would ship for £20000 on 4 CD's.

Also .. what happens when you get 40 million corn-fed AOL users dumped on
the LINUX scene?
Who knows but it cant be pretty.

Yes I do have a chip on my shoulder with regard AOL. They bought out
Compuserve under a stern, public promise to improve and specialize it.
Within a year they had stripped it bare, removed all the 'forums' of any
worth -which were its sole seller really- and buried the corpse in a shallow
grave of beurocratic impotence.

They aquired ICQ.

Thats gone completely to pot. Log in now, dont even enter any details and
you'll get porno spam within 20 minutes.
Some people here get 3-5 an hour.
</rant>

It could be bad news indeed.
S'all.

L

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Stoddart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [rl-users] AOL Buying RedHat?


> I'm not saying that I agree with AOL's desire to buy RedHat, but there are
> three things that spring to mind.
>
> First, RedHat would get an infusion or resources, both human and
financial.
>
> Second, the RedHat guys would get rich (hell don't we all dream of that
> sometimes?!)
>
> Third, I thought that there was a desire in the Linux public to create a
> distribution that could be used by everyone's grandmother? Isn't that
> partially what Redmond Linux (sorry don't have the announcement to hand)
is
> trying to do?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> On Saturday 19 January 2002 06:41 pm, Mark Petersen wrote:
> > Oh, great! Why not! They've screwed up just about everything else
> > surrounding the internet, and personal computers in general. I guess
they
> > may as well do in the linux world too! I can just see the commercials on
TV
> > now!
> >
> > <computer illiterate person on street>"Wow! AOL Linux is so easy! We
just
> > love it! And all our friends use it too! We can chat... send email...
Even
> > grandma uses it!"</computer illiterate person on
> > street>...<voiceover>"You've got Linux!"</voiceover>
> >
> > I just hope Linus doesn't hang himself from the chandelier over this
one...
> >
> > -Mark
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Lanny
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:02 PM
> >   Subject: [rl-users] AOL Buying RedHat?
> >
> >
> >   This looks strange
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5064-2002Jan18.html It
talks
> > about AOL buying RedHat.
> >
> >   Lanny
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