On 10/7/07, Mihai Badici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of rzeno > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [rlug] send_mail si Fiberlink.RDS > > On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:57:55AM +0300, Dan Uscatu wrote: > >>> Nu din greseala, ci din oficiu. Adica anumite clase de IP-uri (cred) > apar > >>> listate in PBL. Presupun ca RDS ( ca nu vad altfel cum) le-a listat. > >> > >> ciudata conceptie te-a adus la concluzia asta. adresele ip listate in > >> rbluri (adrese in proprietatea isp-ului) sunt acolo din vina celor > care > >> le-au folosit mai mult sau mai putin temporar. > > > > tzapa. PBL e nu-s ce lista de adrese "rezidentiale", pe care unii > considera > > ca n-ar trebui sa rulezi servicii. si eu mi-am gasit ip-ul listat in > PBL, > > prin simplul fapt ca RDS a listat acolo TOATE ip-urile pe care le > folosesc > > pentru fibra (niste clase din alea uriase). si am abonament de > business. > > las' ca ies eu la pensie, sa am timp de procese. > > > NU ARE RDS NIMIC CU ASTA!!, are ce bube vrei tu dar asta NU pentru > simplu > fapt ca nu poate nimeni lista in PBL pe cine vrea, asta fara sa mai > discutam > de faptul ca un isp trebuie sa fie complet dus cu pluta ca sa faca asta. > > Ia mai vezi ce zic cei de la spamhaus de PBL. Nu e nici XBL, nici RBL, > ci o "initiative a ISP-istilor.
Mihai, o observatie. Pe spamhaus.org despre PBL scrie ca pe linga ISP e si o echipa spamhaus (http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/). AFAIK, nici un ISP din Romania nu este afiliat la spamhaus sau alt PBL. Daca gresec, te rog sa imi spui. Iata un extract de pe acea pagina care arata ca nu doar cei ce au initiativa (ISP) pot face listarea: --- cut here --- PBL IP address ranges are added and maintained by each network participating in the PBL project, working in conjunction with the Spamhaus PBL team, to help apply their outbound email policies. Additional IP address ranges are added and maintained by the Spamhaus PBL Team, particularly for networks which are not participating themselves (either because the ISP/block owner does not know about, is proving difficult to contact, or because of language difficulties), and where spam received from those ranges, rDNS and server patterns are consistent with end-user IP space which typically contain high concentrations of "botnet zombies", a major source of spam. Once aware of them, the ISP/block owner can take over such records at any time to manage them further. --- and here --- ----------------------------------- bash# :(){ :|:&};: -- Iulian _______________________________________________ RLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.lug.ro/mailman/listinfo/rlug
