Daca e sa ma iau dupa valorile SMART ar trebui sa arunc multe HDD-uri la
cos.  Am doua HDD de 1TB care tot chitaie ca SMART asa si pe dincolo iar
ele functioneaza foarte bine de vreo 4 ani dar tin doar fisiere
neimportante pe ele.  Just in case.  Insa vroiam sa va spun ca nu
intotdeauna SMART-ul face treaba buna. Retineti , 4 ani de functionare day
by day.
În data de 02.04.2014 13:26, "Iulian Murgulet" <[email protected]> a scris:

> Quoting Abibula Aygun <[email protected]>:
>
> > Eu folosesc , mai curand , Enterprise edition , Red Edition si Black
> > Edition. Fug ca naiba de taaie de alea Blue si Green .
>
> Da, ia uite un Black Edition, dupa 3 ore de functionare. Zice SMART ca:
>
> Current_Pending_Sector     -       1
>
> .... dar zfs-ul imi spune ca pe HDD-ul asta a gasit 84K cu erori(pe
> care i-a reparat din fericire). Oare cine minte aici?
>
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Black
> Device Model:     WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0
> Serial Number:    WD-WCATRC249045
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 25d9c0c7a
> Firmware Version: 05.01D05
> User Capacity:    1.000.204.886.016 bytes [1,00 TB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   8
> ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
> Local Time is:    Wed Apr  2 13:09:36 2014 EEST
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
>                                          was never started.
>                                          Auto Offline Data Collection:
> Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine
> completed
>                                          without error or no self-test has
> ever
>                                          been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:                (16680) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>                                          Auto Offline data collection
> on/off support.
>                                          Suspend Offline collection upon
> new
>                                          command.
>                                          Offline surface scan supported.
>                                          Self-test supported.
>                                          Conveyance Self-test supported.
>                                          Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
>                                          power-saving mode.
>                                          Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
>                                          General Purpose Logging supported.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        ( 193) minutes.
> Conveyance self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (   5) minutes.
> SCT capabilities:              (0x3037) SCT Status supported.
>                                          SCT Feature Control supported.
>                                          SCT Data Table supported.
>
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
> UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail
> Always       -       7
>    3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   253   021    Pre-fail
> Always       -       0
>    4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       6
>    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail
> Always       -       0
>    7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>    9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       3
>   10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>   11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>   12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       5
> 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       2
> 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       3
> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   112   108   000    Old_age
> Always       -       35
> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       1
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age
> Offline      -       0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
> 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age
> Offline      -       0
>
>
>
>
>
> > Prefer HDD-uri de capacitati mai mici , combinate in diferite
> arhitecturi ,
> > decat HDD-uri de 3 sau 4TB care pica in draci.
> > Ma gandesc cum sunt construite , ce dimensiuni au capetele de citire
> > scriere , distantele dintre piste , capete , electronica , etc . E mult
> mai
> > easy sa recuperezi datele de pe un HDD de 500GB decat de pe unul de 4TB .
> > Am avut la recuperat un HDD de 3TB dintr-un NAS WD care avea pe el si
> > sistemul de operare. Un debian related . Partitia /home era un EXT 4 . Sa
> > vedeti distractie recuperare din EXT 4 . Noroc ca nu era FAT32 sau NTFS
> ca
> > ma ...... pe ele de date . Am stat vreo 2 saptamani sa trag amintirile
> > omului de la diverse sootinguri cu ceva starlete , artisti si ce mi avea
> el
> > pe acolo.
> > Il mincase in MS-DOS sa ia cu un singur HDD. Nu tu RAID , nu tu replicare
> > in retea. Le tinea pe toate acolo ca doar este NAS Western Digital  si e
> > BUN!
> >
> > Am in exploatare la Spitalul Cernavoda un NAS cu doua HDD-uri de 500 GB ,
> > RAID mirroring , de prin 2009.
> > Merg unse si acum . NAS-ul este un Edimax cu doua bay-uri care acum e
> > discontinued . Pacat ca era foarte ok .
> > Am doua R Pi -uri la care inca nu le-am gasit intrebuintare . Din pacate.
> > Ma tot tin sa pun pe unul din ele un OpenMediaVault dar nu mai gasesc
> timp.
> > Unul vreau sa il fac sistem de alarma .
> >
> > Dar mai vedem .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-01 17:22 GMT+03:00 tiberiu socaciu <[email protected]>:
> >
> >> e economic daca esti contractor la goagle sau alt macinator de date :)
> >>
> >> t.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-04-01 17:20 GMT+03:00 Iulian Murgulet <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >> > Quoting Eugeniu Patrascu <[email protected]>:
> >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> salut. mai in gluma, mai in serios, in 5 ani mi-au picat vreo 3-4
> >> > hdd-uri
> >> > >> facute "storage". incep sa fiu ingrozit de raportul pret/calitate
> >> > pentru un
> >> > >> storage 24 x 7
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Un HDD S-ATA Enterprise de 2TB costa vreo 900EUR. Nu stiu daca vrei
> >> > > neaparat sa dai banii astia pe un disc, insa la 60-70EUR un HDD de
> 2TB
> >> > > normal, cred ca e OK si daca pica dupa 1 an :)
> >> >
> >> > ... sau de 900 de euro iti iei 10 HDD-ri, 5 le folosesti, si faci
> >> > round-robin
> >> > intre ele, si tot iesi mai bine. Au mai aparut statistici date de
> >> > catre furnizori de cloud care lucra cu mii de HDD-ri(enterprise
> >> > included), care confirma ca este mai economic sa folosesti HDD-ri
> >> > non-enterprise.
> >> >
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