Still waiting on the trace.
 - jim

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:17:32 -0700
"Eric Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> James explained it the same way I had heard it explained it before, but the behavior 
> described does not match what I'm observing. Keep in mind that there is no 
> ping-ponging going on. The repeated ACKs are coming back-to-back, in rapid fire, 
> with no server packets received in between.
> 
> 
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   James Washer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent:   Friday, September 05, 2003 4:10 PM
>       To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject:        Re: [RLUG] [OT] TCP/IP Weirdness
> 
>       The technically astute reader will notice that my ack's are off by one, as the 
> receiving machine acks the sequence number of the next packet it expects, NOT the 
> last packet it received..
> 
>       So.. should be
> 
>       server send 1
>       client acks 2
>       server sends 2 which gets lost in the ether
>       client doesn't get it so client does nothing
>       server sends 3
>       client receives 3, but can only ack 2, as it has not yet seen 2
>       server sends 4
>       client receives 4, but can only ack 2, as it has not yet seen 2
>       server RESENDS 2
>       client acks 5 as he has now seen 1,2,3,and 4 and is not expecting 5
>        
>       On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:58:28 -0700
>       James Washer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>       > 
>       > actually... depending on exactly what the client is acking... it more likely 
> means the client failed to see one packet.. and every time is get a new (higher 
> seqence) packet is acks the 'highest sequence' it at seen so far...
>       > 
>       > for example
>       > 
>       > server send 1
>       > client acks 1
>       > server sends 2
>       > client doesn't get it so client does nothing
>       > server sends 3
>       > client receives 3, but can only ack 1, as it has not yet seen 2
>       > server sends 4
>       > client receives 4, but can only ack 1, as it has not yet seen 2
>       > server RESENDS 2
>       > client acks 4
>       > 
>       > >From the original description, it sounds like the server might have an 
> excessively long retransmit timer.
>       > 
>       >  - jim
>       > 
>       > 
>       > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT)
>       > "Todd A. Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>       > 
>       > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Eric Robinson wrote:
>       > > 
>       > > > I'll get you the trace file later today. From memory, I believe the last
>       > > > ACKed packet was about 732 bytes in size, with most of the previous ones
>       > > > being 1432 bytes. After this packet is ACKed, the server keeps sending
>       > > > more data in mostly 1432-byte packets, while the client keeps ACKing the
>       > > > same old packet.
>       > > 
>       > > This indicates that the client is not seeing later packets, for whatever 
>       > > reason. I'd put a tap on the client's Ethernet cable, to find out if the 
>       > > client is in fact receiving the packets on the media. If so, then it's a 
>       > > software problem: Blame Redmond (tm).
>       > > 
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