Dennis,

Do you mean ghostview? I think it can create PDFs as well.

- Bill

--- Dennis Bagley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As to what they are going to need....
> 
> Again I am waiting to hear if they are getting some
> hardware from the county
> and what kind of hardware it will be.  If it's a mess of
> old IBM P-Is, 
> then my first
> step will be to ask who on the board owns a boat and has
> need of an anchor.
> 
> That being said, I got the impression we stand a chance
> of having 
> P-III's to work with
> that may need a bit of a RAM upgrade.
> (If anyone else knows of  other sources for a "matched"
> set of 
> equipment, like Sierra Pacific,
>   IGT, one of  casinos etc. please let us know.  If we
> have an excess of 
> equipment, that is NOT
>   a bad problem to have.)
> 
>  From the conversations I've had so far, I am less
> concerned with Samba 
> and Windoze
> interoperability than the ability to create certain types
> of files that 
> can be read on a BillyBox;
> ie. spreadsheets and doc files, and of course PDF. 
> 
> So OpenOffice will cover most of that.  One of the
> accounting packages I 
> will be examining
> is browser and sql based, but  external use is not as
> important as 
> general suitability.  And I seem to
> recall a package that will create PDF files.  Any body
> remember what it is?
> 
> Going with Gnome sounds just fine.  KDE does have a few
> nice GUI tools, 
> but there are
> Gnome substitutes for virtually all of them.
> 
> I have my first official meeting with the finance
> committee on 1/15 and 
> will have visited the physical facilities
> beforehand.  Next week I have a consulting job in
> Wisconsin but will be 
> in touch via email. and cell phone.
> 
> Request to Jay or whoever else knows where to dig out the
> info.  Please 
> look up the ownership/admin
> on www.nevadastatefair.org.  I was told it is not
> actually owned by the 
> fair!  May need to try to correct
> that.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
> Jay MacDonald wrote:
> 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
> >>Cunningham
> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:46 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: RE: [RLUG] NV Sate Fair
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jay,
> >>
> >>I agree with you with the Debian thing - I only
> suggested
> >>Mandrake as they have recently pledged support for
> years to
> >>come. However the hardware support in Debian is not up
> to
> >>par with those in other distros. I think we probably
> should
> >>take stock in what they need as opposed to proposing
> >>solutions for solutions sake. I'm of the simple
> approach is
> >>the best.
> >>
> >>Perhaps finding out what they really need would be the
> >>first step in determining what distro to use. What
> hardware
> >>do they currently need to have supported and what
> hardware
> >>do they intend to purchase within the next year?
> >>
> >>After that then we probably should start to look into
> what
> >>the really need in terms of financial reporting and
> such.
> >>One step at a time.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I absolutely agree. We should organize a group to meet
> with them and
> >determine specifics of what they will be doing. Dennis?
> What's your take on
> >that? I know you've had some indication.
> >
> >Jay
> >
> >  
> >
> >>- Bill
> >>
> >>--- Jay MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Everyone,
> >>>
> >>>I don't want to make this a distro war, but one thing
> not
> >>>to lose sight of
> >>>is future availability. I've recently moved away from
> Red
> >>>Hat to Debian
> >>>specifically because of this, and am not planning to
> look
> >>>back (read: I'm
> >>>really pleased with Debian). With the recent purchase
> of
> >>>SUSE by Novell I,
> >>>for one, would not put money on SUSE/Novell not going
> the
> >>>way of Red Hat.
> >>>Bottom line: the more "open" we can make this the
> better.
> >>>This project needs
> >>>to be sustainable.
> >>>
> >>>LTSP would be an ideal solution assuming the resources
> >>>were available for
> >>>the central server. IMHO running it with more than a
> >>>couple of clients on
> >>>anything less than a 1 GHz PIII with 1 GB RAM would be
> >>>foolish. Until the
> >>>resources are there to put such a system (or better)
> in
> >>>as the server, I
> >>>recommend we abandon LTSP as a possibility. From what
> >>>I've seen so far, no
> >>>"big servers" are coming our way.
> >>>
> >>>IMHO GNOME and KDE are the only real options for the
> GUI
> >>>on desktops, so a
> >>>minimum system requirement needs to be defined. Sure,
> >>>they would run on
> >>>lesser hardware, but we need some level of
> productivity
> >>>and ease of use in
> >>>this install. As such I absolutely agree that anything
> >>>less than a PIII with
> >>>256 MB RAM is not worth pursuing for the desktops. If
> >>>lesser hardware is all
> >>>that is available by donations we need to try and get
> the
> >>>RAM upped.
> >>>
> >>>If a couple of PIIs are available then by all means
> bring
> >>>them in as low end
> >>>servers handling routing, e-mail, file and print
> sharing.
> >>>They will likely
> >>>continue to have some Windows machines around so
> Samba,
> >>>rather than NFS,
> >>>would IMHO be the most likely direction to go for
> network
> >>>sharing. Tunneling
> >>>Samba through ssh is much easier than NFS, too. (As an
> >>>aside, my friend here
> >>>in Colorado uses ssh to tunnel port 139 from the home
> >>>offices to the Samba
> >>>server at the main office and runs Quickbooks on
> shared
> >>>files through it. He
> >>>has a shell script to set up the tunnel in a CygWin
> shell
> >>>using OpenSSH).
> >>>
> >>>As for applications, I think it's pretty much obvious:
> >>>OpenOffice.org and
> >>>Mozilla make up the basis for the bulk of the
> requirement
> >>>outside of
> >>>accounting, especially since they both cross over to
> the
> >>>Windows world. My
> 
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