On 07/08/2014 02:10 PM, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Martin Zenzes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    On 07/08/2014 01:53 PM, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
    I don't like this, as in most situations people *want* the GUI.
    The nogui case is a special case. all packages including the GUI
    is the common case. Note that gui/vizkit was already part of
    rock.toolchain before the migration.
    the embedded guys don't want to have anything to do with
    gui-stuff. In my view: keep the minimal depedency-chain as short
    as possible. otherwise people will start talking using words like
    "bloated"


Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but the embedded guys are far from being the "common case". Moreover, if you want to reduce the number of packages you install on your embedded system to a minimum (which is probably what you want), then having a metapackage is not what you are looking for. You want to pick packages one by one.
i'm not directly talking about the "autoproj metapackage", but the underlying assumption that people *want* the gui. people are not the only entities using the software. think about automated testing, for example. headless robots are another case.

Now, as a middle ground, where would a rock.core.nogui metapackage not fit the "embedded guy" case ?
in the way that "rock.core" itself implies (in my view) the "nogui" part. "rock.core.gui" makes more sense.

none of my feelings are hurt just posted my opinion ;-)

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