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n0name newsletter #115 Fr., 22.06.2007 05:30 CET *Inhalt/Contents* 1. Würstchenbude (38317) ACHTUNG! German Umlauts 2. In the Negativ(e)land An E-Mailconversation 3. Rezension von Sabine Nuss. _Copyright & Copyriot_ 19 4. A Memex Wall Superfactory(TM) & mi_ga 5. Nick. _Roman_ (Fortsetzungsroman) Teil 74 32 KB, ca. 13 DIN A4-Seiten ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. _-_ _-' | '-_ |_.-|-._ `-._ | | `.._| |_ | | ' `-|__--''`' Mercedes-Benz Würstchenbude (38317) ACHTUNG! German Umlauts Die Welt blickt auf Kassel Ex-Frontzonenstadt, Rüstungscity mit ausgeglichenem Chancen-Risiko-Mix ... neuer Flughafen für den Panzertransport Er ist der Springer, du der Bauer Der gute Buergerl fragt warum es in dieser Stadt so viele Würstchenbuden in Relation zur Zahl der Arbeitslosen gäbe Die Leute haben einfach wenig und essen zuviel Fett und Zucker Hamburger und Peitsche Dafür kommt jetzt Ferrán Adrià [nicht] direkt vom Mmmhittelmeer ünd macht eine Erdbeerschaumpartei Und Buergel ..., will uns das Gefühl geben, die Welt zu machen und ein kompositoristischer Teil zu sein Das Gefühl, fein! Und auch die Mittel? fein Die Mini-Bourgeoisie zerteilt alles in möglichst kleine Teile fein Kollektive sind eine stärkere Bedrohung als Terrorismus Ihr habt nur Angst, den Anschluss zu verpassen Komisch, nicht? Wo man auch hinkommt, überall wissen die Menschen mehr über uns als wir über sie. "Was tun?" fragt ausgerechnet der Chef Als wie alszus Cürrywurst Dafür gibt es jetzt Richtig-Essen-Erfahrungstage der Gutes-aus-Deutschland Made in EU mbH Aber mehr gibt es nicht Aktivier dich! Gib deren Senf dazu Dafür, dafür Fürs Wünschen und Begehren gibt es hier keine Form Das ist doch nur ein Dispositiv Ich sehe mir Diapositive von 1972 an An einen halben Meter lange Würstchen komme ich nicht ran Stopfen wir ihnen den Mund Bratwürstchen für Bedürftige Du hast keine Ahnung, Du glaubst an moderne Mahnerei Ich bin ja so ehrlich und demokratisch Ein wenig Kochkunst hilft hier weiter Aber nichts wird so heiss gegessen Im Sommer, im Juni Wo bleibt der Service? Der Besucher ist Kunde, der Kunde ist der Läufer Das billigste Ticket kostet 5 EURO Das ist er auch schon, der Gestaltungsspielraum Du opferst 2 Mittagessen für Kunstkacke Hobbysozialarbeiter betreuen dich Carmen tanz! Ferrán mach den Stier! Doch die Zeichen gehören nicht dir Die Brötchen musst du dir erst verdienen Would you like to participate in an artistic experience? Im Museum des Grafen, der dafür vor 120 Jahren Soldaten an England vermietete Die Bank von nebenan sponsort mit deinem Geld Wir machen eine intranslokale Würstchenbude auf, fahren dann wie Nomaden mit dem Caravan immer an der Bannmeile der Großveranstaltung entlang und vergessen den Artismus dabei, denn die schöne autonome gibt es nicht Hier kannst du mit deiner selbstgemachten Scheisse migrieren, du Arschloch Der König und seine Königin bestimmen was als im System noch funktioniert Was dich nicht interessiert interessiert mich nicht Und der immobile Mob, der nie in New York, Ljubljana, Mexico City oder Dakar war, darf partizipieren / partyfizieren Punst und Kolitik überall - wohin soll man gehen, was kann man machen? Soll man machen, hat man die Wahl? Ich weiß, was du machen kannst: diese Show verlassen und endlich die eigene Welt-Schau anfangen und das sogenannte blosse Leben dem Zirkus überlassen, der alle Jahre wieder kommt Raus aus deinem Bratwurst-Atelier Rein in das Call-Center von QVC Da geht doch was 12 Striche? Mach 3 Xe! In 2006 setzte die Computerspiele-Industrie 1,77 Milliarden um 20 Mio. für die Kunstkacke sind nur Peanuts Kultur ist Kulisse, bezahlt aus den Fonds der Profite Kunst und Kultur - ein veraltetes Scheinreich an der Märchenstrasse KuK, KuK, KuK Und solltest du Fragen zu diesen Bereichen haben, wende dich bitte an +49 561 70 72 70 oder an bibuc.ks und Leute, die jetzt angekommen sind Die jetzt angekommen sind Die jetzt angekommen sind Die jetzt angekommen sind Die jetzt angekommen sind (c) 14.06.2007 n0name http://www.n0name.de/38317/wuerstchenbude ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nachricht eines eBayMitglieds Wo bleibt mein Geld? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. In the Negativ(e)land An E-Mailconversation No No Logo Band I am an acitivist Chumba chumba Don't go Negativland Make up your own own band Don't pay No Logo Bands The shit is at your hand Don't licence Creative Commons Lessig is a middle class punk Stealing is just not producing There is no business like no-business This is not Fiat [fIut] (c) 38317 http://www.n0name.de/38317/nonologoband ----------------------------------------------------- From: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> To: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007, 8:29:55 PM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ----------------------------------------------------- Thanks for sending! What prompted you to make this? We don't entirely agree with Creative Commons either, BTW, but still think there are some good things about what they are doing. Don't know how well you know our work, but we don't just steal things. All of our our work (with the exception of the NO BUSINESS project, which is 100% stolen audio), is always a mix of original material collaged together with found stuff. Mark On May 24, 2007, at 7:04 AM, Matze Schmidt wrote: > ____________ > /C___________/ > > No No Logo Band > > Negativland [...] © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © © Please note that my new e-mail address, thoroughly monitored by advertisers and the US government, is - markhosler(at)gmail.com [...] ----------------------------------------------------- From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> To: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007, 9:37:49 PM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ----------------------------------------------------- thanks for mailing me, well, my idea of the work of yours is not quite grounded, since i only know "THE" negativland. i don't know your work better as i probably know mine. i only know about negativland what _i got from the media_ (ok, this is a common ground phrase). i was not in the show in berlin, but i heard my friends realy enjoyed it. this live-radio show was what they expected ...and here the 'trouble' starts. i saw/see that negativland is somehow positioned - by whom? - in the field of this no logo-'movement', which i find very on the surface of the problems of capitalism because it only describes the very surface of the wares-system without taking into acccount the deeper structures (e.g. surplus value production and private property of means of production ). but the problem is not so much that you (negativland) are supposed to be the band of the anti-copyright - since the legendary plunderphonics days and the phonecalls with u2 - which was great. the problem is, that negativland functions *in fact* like a cipher for resistance against the authentic, against the origin and as a code pro re-appropriation of cultural material at all. you (negativland) became a sort of symbol for (quote:) "no-business". but there is no such thing as "no-business". you have business by making profit, or you have no business by making no profit, and you have small business making less or nearly no profit. but is there any biz of a small capitalist that's good? is the bakeshop around the corner good because it does not exploit the employee? hell, i still have to pay for the roll. and what's funny: the baker itself has to pay for the roll too. therefore there is no such biz like "no-business". but biz is not 'bad' as it is not 'good'. it is just the mode of social organization we have to end. in short: this idea of alternative business, this no-business, also called alternative economy or informal economy is an illusion of reformerists because of several reasons. the most important reason is the capital itself (capital as the current social condition and context of most societies). it will never stop making profit for profit's sake, with or without (... you; another quote ;) ) those robinson crusoe islands ("This is not Fiat") of a better biz, no matter if it is original material or pirated material or "original pirated material" (the streets). so that's why - i'm sorry - i attack negativland as a sign and symbol for alternative economy. matze ----------------------------------------------------- From: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> To: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 12:09:49 AM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ----------------------------------------------------- We also agree that the whole "culture jamming" movement" as promoted by places like ADBUSTERS does not dig deep enough to the underlying issues- capitalism itslef, teh very legal nature of what corporations are, and the way money influences politics so that we have no democracy at all. In fact, we've spoken about this in interviews and in lectures to the public. If you ever *buy* ( ha ha) a copy of our NO BUSINESS release, you can read the appendix to the 15,000 word essay in it. In this appendix we zoom out to a much bigger picture. You may or may not agree with our conclusions, but we do take a complex point of view on all this stuff. If all you know about is from reading the press and not actually experiencing our work, then, yes, of course yo wont know that much about what we do! :) Why would would want to attack directly, when yo seem to be offend not bby the actual work, but by the way the media talks about it? Much better to address and attack the way the media describes as this. These are very legitimate criticisms to make, I think. > thanks for mailing me, > > well, my idea of the work of yours is not quite grounded, since i only > know "THE" negativland. i don't know your work better as i probably > know > mine. i only know about negativland what _i got from the media_ (ok, > this is a common ground phrase). > > i was not in the show in berlin, but i heard my friends realy enjoyed > it. this live-radio show was what they expected ...and here the > 'trouble' starts. > > i saw/see that negativland is somehow positioned - by whom? - in the > field of this no logo-'movement', which i find very on the surface of > the problems of capitalism because it only describes the very surface > of > the wares-system without taking into acccount the deeper structures > (e.g. surplus value production and private property of means of > production ). Have you actually NO LOGO? If not, you really should before you decide the author fucked up. > but the problem is not so much that you (negativland) are > supposed to be the band of the anti-copyright - since the legendary > plunderphonics days and the phonecalls with u2 - which was great. the > problem is, that negativland functions *in fact* like a cipher for > resistance against the authentic, against the origin and as a code > pro > re-appropriation of cultural material at all. That is an interesting way to think about our work. Do you know anyone who agrees with this point of view?? Just curious. > you (negativland) became a > sort of symbol for (quote:) "no-business". Funny. Clearly we are a symbol of that to you. But not to ourselves!! :) We have to make a little money so we can eat! We cannot afford to perform for free, for example. There is very little support for the arts in the USA. It's a constant struggle. > but there is no such thing as > "no-business". you have business by making profit, or you have no > business by making no profit, and you have small business making less > or > nearly no profit. but is there any biz of a small capitalist that's > good? is the bakeshop around the corner good because it does not > exploit > the employee? hell, i still have to pay for the roll. and what's > funny: > the baker itself has to pay for the roll too. therefore there is no > such biz like "no-business". but biz is not 'bad' as it is not 'good'. > it is just the mode of social organization we have to end. > > in short: this idea of alternative business, this no-business, also > called alternative economy That is not something we have ever suggested in our work, though. Sadly, there seems to be no escaping capitalism. The question is, can there be capitalism that does not hurt people and the planet? What do you think? > or informal economy is an illusion of > reformerists because of several reasons. the most important reason is > the capital itself (capital as the current social condition and > context > of most societies). it will never stop making profit for profit's > sake, > with or without (... you; another quote ;) ) those robinson crusoe > islands ("This is not Fiat") of a better biz, no matter if it is > original material or pirated material or "original pirated material" > (the streets). > > so that's why - i'm sorry - i attack negativland as a sign and symbol > for alternative economy. Well, it is amazing to me that we seem to be all those things to you!! Wow! Mark ----------------------------------------------------- From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> To: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 12:38:43 PM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ----------------------------------------------------- that you (negativland) have spoken to the public is a fine manner (sorry for my cynicism). i speak with public too ;) and the public, what public?, speaks to me. > In fact, we've spoken about this in interviews and in lectures > to the public. > If you ever *buy* ( ha ha) a copy of our NO BUSINESS release, you > can > read the appendix to the 15,000 word essay in it. could you mail to me these 15,000 words as pdf? i'm not joking. because i will never buy an official copy of no business ...think i got the audio stuff already via torrent (or maybe it's included in this copy-copy?). and in fact, i did pay my computer, my dsl account, the rent, electricity and so on for getting this copy-copy of the "no business" release. please check another pro-ject dealing with cycles like that (ACHTUNG! ad): http://www.n0name.de/kapitalkreislauf as payback i'd send you some CDs with the tracks of this work. > Funny. Clearly we are a symbol of that to you. But not to ourselves!! you (negativland) are a symbol not only to me personally but to what we call the public. and yourselves (negativland) - excuse me for always using this word-loop about you and your symbol - are part of it. the relation is not that there is some 'you' and the rest of some listeners. negativland's radio show consists of people listening and negativland playing. actually the people listening are playing too. they are playing the listeners of the show. this is one reason for the slight change in spectacle today, as i think; the structural reason for live shows becoming more or less more important than the copy of the releases consumed. or as marx (tattaa!) said: the production produces the consumer: "Production [...] produces the object of consumption, the manner of consumption and the motive of consumption. Consumption likewise produces the producer's inclination by beckoning to him as an aim-determining need." (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/ works/download/Marx_Grundrisse.pdf) so not the consumer produces the production, like naomi klein and others suggest with their greenpeacy consumerism. it the other way round, it is all based on production and surplus labor. what about thinking of this first instead of asking for a good (governance?) capitalism? > The question is, can > there be capitalism that does not hurt people and the planet? What do > you think? i am thinking euros and not dollars... ;) > the way money influences politics mh, that's exactly the superficial no logo-theory. the money is the effect, the fetish, not the drive. the brand is the image and part of the commodity, but the commodity is for surplus value only. the hole criticism baout brands (the nike discourse) doesn't get the point of the base of the mode of production. > We have to make a little money so we can eat! We cannot afford to > perform for free no-body can perform for free, man ;) >> or informal economy is an illusion of >> reformerists because of several reasons. the most important reason is >> the capital itself (capital as the current social condition and >> context >> of most societies). it will never stop making profit for profit's >> sake, >> with or without (... you; another quote ;) ) those robinson crusoe >> islands ("This is not Fiat") of a better biz, no matter if it is >> original material or pirated material or "original pirated material" >> (the streets). >> >> so that's why - i'm sorry - i attack negativland as a sign and symbol >> for alternative economy. > Well, it is amazing to me that we seem to be all those things to you!! i'm trying to discuss here :) i am not suggesting. it is not just that simple relationship of _you and me_. it is you (negativland) as a sign/symbol/code and someone who's talking in a not very complex way about this relationship and the function of a project bringing up things about biz and (c). > Have you actually NO LOGO? yes, but not the paberback - sometimes the copy-culture helps. matze ------------------------------------------------------ From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> To: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 8:21:58 AM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ------------------------------------------------------- if you're d'accord i'd like to quote our short dialogue so far in the n0name newsletter [...]. matze ----------------------------------------------------- From: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> To: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 9:47:36 AM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland Files: message.att ----------------------------------------------------- sure, but fix my typos!! :) And I look forward to your replies. And Don might have something to add to this as well. I sent him our communications. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt(at)n0name.de> To: mark / negativland <markhosler(at)gmail.com> Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 8:21:58 AM Subject: No No Logo Band - Negativland ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > sure, but fix my typos!! :) I'm sorry that I didn't Matze Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: XY (Mailbox or Conference is full.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. Rezension von Sabine Nuss. _Copyright & Copyriot_ 19 Der 'konkurrenz'-kapitalistische Charakter des grossen (c) kommt in der klaren Ansage des deutschen Kapitals, welches gerade in extremem Masz auf auslaendische Rohstoffe angewiesen ist, heraus: "Gesetzesentwurf zufolge könnten die Rechteinhaber heutzutage im Gegensatz zu früher ihre Werke durch technische Sperren vor unautorisiertem Vervielfältigen und Weitergeben schützen. Würde man diese Sperren nun wieder entfernen dür-fen, wäre die Möglichkeit der Verwertung beeinträchtigt, so die Begründung: „Es darf nicht sein, dass ein kostenloser Genuß von geistigem Eigentum für den Verbrau-cher zur Regel wird. Es gilt vielmehr, auch durch die Regelung der Privatkopie zu vermit-teln, dass geistiges Eigentum - wie Sacheigentum - seinen Preis hat. Gerade Deutschland als rohstoffarmes Land ist auf einen entsprechenden gesellschaftlichen Konsens angewie- sen. Nur wenn das Ergebnis von Kreativität angemessen bezahlt wird, wird es auch künf-tig Inhalte geben, die vom Verbraucher genutzt werden können" (Kopienbrauchen Originale.de 2005a). In der Urheberrechtsnovelle spiegelt sich einigen Autoren zufolge der Einfluss der Verwertungsindustrie nicht nur „in der inhaltlichen Ausgestaltung der inter-nationalrechtlichen Vorgaben wider, sondern in gleichem Maße auch in der deut-schen Urheberrechtsnovelle" (Nitschke 2004: o. S.). Allerdings konnte auch die Industrie ihr Interesse nicht vollumfänglich durchsetzen, so favorisierte die pho- nographische Wirtschaft, nur noch die analoge Privatkopie von Musik zuzulas-sen (Kopien brauchen Originale.de 2005c) und eine digitale Privatkopie zu ver-bieten. Auch der Bundesverband der Informationswirtschaft, Telekommunikati-on und Neue Medien e.V. sprach sich dagegen aus, dass das Internet in die Pauschal-vergütung für die Privatkopie einbezogen werden würde: „weil es sich hier immer entweder um rechtswidrige oder um direkt gegen Entgelt oder kostenlos lizenzier-te Inhalte handelt" (BITKOM 2004: 1). Dies ist aus der Perspektive der Industrie rational, denn sie geht davon aus, dass im Falle von rechtswidrigen oder kosten-losen Inhalten eine Kompensationsleistung entfällt und im Falle von Einzellizen-zierungen das Werk direkt verwertet wird und daher nicht pauschal vergütet wer- den muss. Digitale Privatkopien bleiben dem Referentenentwurf zufolge aber grundsätz-lich erlaubt (dies ist nicht gleichzusetzen mit ein „Recht darauf` zu haben52), da es nicht gewährleistet sei, dass in Zukunft nur noch geschützte Tonträger auf den Markt kommen werden. Wenn damit die Vervielfältigung von urheberechtlich _______________ 52 In einem Interview mit dem Computermagazin c't sagt Zypries, dass es zwar ein Recht auf digitale und analoge Privatkopie gäbe, allerdings nur, solange dieses Recht tech-nisch nicht unterbunden wird: „Genau das ist doch die Idee des Urheberrechts! Das Urheberrecht sagt nichts anderes, als dass der Rechteinhaber mit seinem Recht umge-hen und es verwerten kann" (Zypries in Sietmann 2004: 161). Wenn ein Musikverwert-er online Musik anbietet, ist es demnach urheberrechtlich legitim, wenn er die Verviel-fältigung mit entsprechender Technologie egal wie weit einschränkt. Auf die Frage von c't, ob es denn kein Recht auf Privatkopie gäbe, antwortet sie klar und bestimmt: „Nein, das Urheberrecht kennt kein Recht auf Privatkopie" (Zypries in Sietmann 2004: 161). 72" Ali Emas/Matze Schmidt Sabine Nuss. _Copyright & Copyriot: Aneignungskonflikte um geistiges Eigentum im informationellen Kapitalismus_. Muenster: Westfaelisches Dampboot, 2006. 269 S. - EURO 19,90. Erschienen: Oktober 2006 Volltext-Archiv aller im Buch verwendeten elektronischen Quellen (ca. 20 MB) http://wbk.in-berlin.de/wp_nuss/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/ lit_linksklein.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4. A Memex Wall Superfactory(TM) & mi_ga lauf.werk . tmp . data.rescue . fr 22. - so 24. juni 07 eroeffnung fr 18 Uhr medien.projekt.raum /tmp luetzowstr 20 . d - 10785 berlin u-bahn kurfürstentrasse A Memex Wall Superfactory(TM) in a cooperation with mi_ga Rapid flow of letters and numbers on a monitor wall has nothing to do with chaos theory which can cause big disruptions in our world. It has also nothing to do with hackers world as one would like to say. Thus we show the monitor wall within a context of "memex game" a "memory extender" game, the term of which was used to call a proto-hypertext computer system influencing the development of subsequential hypertext and intellectual augmenting computer systems. A "memex game" is a visual translation of that complex systems proposed by Vannevar Bush back in 1945. Here you get to know exciting people of the scene - the hacker artisan, the peer-to-peer operaist, the open source ego, etc. - all necessary to build up a more or less complex structure of contemporary economy and politics. The monitor wall or a Bookshelf how originally was called, represents a network traffic translated into descriptive form, so the unseen side of "networking" would be understandable or at least readable. In a technical terms the flow of letters and numbers on the monitors would sound like 'tcpdump', a common computer network debugging tool. 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Nick. _Roman_ (Fortsetzungsroman) Teil 75 Dabei war der Faktor Noise, Noise, Noise und nochmal Noise so gross, dass er keine Chance sah, weiterzukommen. Das Apokalypse-Theorem sah hier ein Ende und einen Anfang vor. Aber wo blieb der Anfang? Teil 76 im n0name newsletter #116 ======================================================================== Sie erhalten den n0name newsletter, weil sie da sind!/You get the n0name newsletter, because you are there! *Bitte weiterleiten!/Please forward!* (c) 1999-2007 n0name, die Autorinnen & Autoren und die Maschinen Unterstuetzt von XPECT MEDIA http://www.xpect-media.de Sponsored by FONDS Dank an >top e.V. ------------------ Ende des n0name newsletter #115 ------------------- -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
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