On 2/23/06, David M Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Comments inline...
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Ted Husted wrote:
> > On 2/23/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On the one hand it's bad to have non-ASF copyrighted code in the ASF
> >> repository; on the other hand it might make the rollerweblogger
> >> releases from the committers harder to do.
> >
> > I guess I don't understand the problem. Do we have ASF committers that
> > are adament that individual copyrights must be retained in material
> > that is donated to the foundation? (We did  have that case with
> > another project.)
>
> I don't believe so. However, when I was researching the move to
> Apache some people told me that copyright DID NOT have to be
> signed over to Apache. Despite those capital letters, I don't really
> have a strong opinion on this topic.
>
> Has Sun insisted on keeping Sun copyright on committer contributions
> on other Apache projects?

Interesting. I've never heard of Apache code not being copyrighted to
the ASF - ignoring the grey period of Incubation.

Personal copyrights seem even more of a pain in the arse to maintain
in the long term than

> > Even if the board relaxes the policy that every file licensed to the
> > ASF include our copyright, we still need to deal with ambigous files
> > like
> >
> > * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/roller/trunk/src/org/
> > roller/business/AutoPingManagerImpl.java
> >
> > which bear only the copyright of an individual and don't mention the
> > ASF at all.
> >
> > Even then, I believe the policy would be to either place 1 copyright
> > notice in licensed files running soley to the ASF, -OR- 0 copyright
> > notices in licensed files, and a COPYRIGHT.txt listing all parties.
> >
> > Right now, we seem to be dong neither :)
> >
> > What is the Roller PPMC's policy?
>
> Good question ;-)

Very interested in hearing if there are any reasons for things not to
eventually be copyright ASF.

> > And, do we have paperwork on file for "past members" Mindaguas Idzelis
> > and  Jaap Van Der Molen? (I couldn't find any.)
>
> No we don't.

Definitely a new todo then. Obtain software grants (I assume, rather
than ICLAs) from Mindaguas and Jaap.

> When I started Roller, I thought that all contributions would become
> copyright by me. Later I realized that was not the open source norm and
> I started leaving copyrights on the files.

Legal norm :)

> Recently, I've be adding "Copyright Sun" on code I write for Sun and
> "Copyright Dave Johnson" for other code I contribute (e.g. the Atom
> protocol implementation I wrote in off-hours for my book).

Is any of the Roller code "Copyright Sun" now?

Hen

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