Hi Allen,

Does this mean that for a group blog I can put a picture of the person
poting in the summary on the blog home page, or I can make a list and bio of
the various blog contributors for a group blog. If so I have a need for this
feature right away and would be happy to take what you build and backport it
to 3.0 or 3.1 and put it on my production site at www.sereneambition.com 

Adib  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Allen Gilliland
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:25 PM
To: roller-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Quick Proposal: support for weblog avatar and bio attributes

This is a reminder that I am planning to do this work pretty soon and add it
to the current trunk so it's part of Roller 3.2.

This will include adding 2 new weblog fields for "icon" and "about".

-- Allen


Allen Gilliland wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave wrote:
>> On 1/25/07, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Dave wrote:
>>> >> anyone object to adding these 2 attributes for weblogs?
>>> >
>>> > Yes. Don't those belong on the user or a new user-profile object? 
>>> > A weblog has multiple users and could therefore have multiple bios 
>>> > and avatars.
>>>
>>> Doh, I meant to specifically address that in my original email but 
>>> forgot :/
>>>
>>> I had the same initial thought, but I came up with a few reasons why 
>>> these items wouldn't be associated with a user profile actually ...
>>>
>>> 1. with the many-to-many relationship between users and weblogs 
>>> there is really no reliable way to get to a user from a weblog and 
>>> more importantly there is no guaranteed way of getting a single user 
>>> for a weblog.  so it would be troublesome to figure out which 
>>> profile to use in group blog situations.
>>>
>>> 2. users may own multiple weblogs and may not want to use the same 
>>> avatar and bio on both/all of them.
>>>
>>> 3. users may also come and go from a weblog, i.e. join and be owner 
>>> for a while then leave it to someone else.  while this isn't likely 
>>> to happen very often, it would be a definite problem if a user who 
>>> was controlling the avatar and bio on a weblog and that stuff wasn't 
>>> available anymore.
>>>
>>> I also think that at the end of the day the image and bio are really 
>>> a property of the weblog and in most cases are just being used to 
>>> highlight the author.  However, in many cases they can be used in a 
>>> more generic way such as being an icon and a tagline.  So I think 
>>> it's easiest and most appropriate to have them as properties of a
weblog.
>>
>> In that case it makes more since to call the field "about" instead of 
>> "bio" -- it's a bit of text about the blog, which could be used as a 
>> bio or something else. And instead of avatar how about "image" or 
>> "icon"?
> 
> Good point, some more appropriate nomenclature would be helpful.
> 
> 
>>
>> It would definitely be useful to also have those fields in the user 
>> object or a new user-profile object, that way group blogs like The 
>> Aquarium could include an about page that automatically lists each 
>> blogger in the blog and a photo of each and is automatically updated 
>> as member hip in the group blog changes -- you won't be able to do 
>> that with one bio and avatar for the whole blog.
> 
> Yes, I agree that there is definitely still a use for tracking more 
> info at the user profile level, but there are also more complexities 
> with that.  For example, we currently have no way to allow attaching 
> of uploaded images to users.  All the current file uploads 
> infrastructure is segmented by weblog, so doing uploads for users 
> would have to be separate.  There are little things like that which 
> would have to be considered.
> 
> -- Allen
> 
> 
>>
>> - Dave

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