I wasn't suggesting that people define both tags and categories.

In my view, membership of an entry in a category would be entirely dynamic. One wouldn't specify the category when writing the entry, only the tags. The categories would just be defined as search filters on the tags, so membership would be automatic. I would use the tags "java" and "tips" and elsewhere (and just once) I could have defined a category "Java Tips" = "java"+"tips".

One can also view this as a category "folder" whose contents are determined dynamically by a filter. In an earlier message, I described the idea of supporting hierarchical categories as search filter conjunctions as well. "java/tips" = "java" + "tips" = "tips/java" depending only on how you want to organize the "folders," but you never actually have to recategorize entries; they keep the same tags.

As you say, it is possible to consider the saved search filter as a bookmark instead of as a category (or in addition). The main difference is that bookmarks aren't normally a container concept so you can't very natually nest them in hierarchies. (You can put bookmarks into folders, but a bookmark doesn't contain other bookmarks.) If one doesn't want to support hierarchical categories however, viewing saved tag filters as bookmarks works very well.

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Allen Gilliland wrote:

On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 00:26, Anil Gangolli wrote:
Allen Gilliland wrote:

Maybe we can create something like a "saved tag searches", which allows a blogger to save certain tag combinations and give it a name and then reuse that list on their blog somewhere. Basically it would be the same as a bookmark folder, except that all the bookmarks would reference pages of tag combinations for their blog.
Yes! The idea of a "saved tag search" labelled as a category is what I've been trying to convey all along. I must really be getting bad at expressing myself. I think we are on the same page now.

cool.  so i guess my follow up question to this is where should this "saved tag search" 
ability really be stored?  should it be a "smart" category?  or a special kind of 
bookmark?

i can see the reason to want to save it as a category, but to me that is also slightly problematic because people 
manually assign categories when they are publishing an entry.  so there is obvious redundancy if the category 
"Java Tips" is assigned to a new entry that is tagged with "java" and "tips".  would 
"smart" categories not be like a normal category that you assign an entry to?

i am thinking that a "saved tag search" is actually more like a bookmark.  then 
like we do with blogroll we can provide a special macro that would list your saved tag 
searches with links to the pages and rss?

-- Allen



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