On 11/7/05, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, I'm not sure it's important to Sun.  To my knowledge the decision 
> to move to apache was made by the Roller community and had nothing to do with 
> Sun.


While not wanting to end up in a 'he-said, she-said'; I thought the
history was that the Roller chose not to join prior to Dave joining
Sun, but that Sun pointed out further advantages. One of these being
attention to legal issues, and the matter was rethought. I apologise
if I've got that wrong though, much of that is probably reading into
things being said.

I just mailed concerning the issue being over ASF policy now; that
policy is most concerned with the rights of downstream users. ie) if a
company were to release a commercial version of the project, that the
LGPL usage wouldn't torpedo their desire to do so.


> That being said, I agree with Matt.  I am just here to develop code and make 
> the project better.  From all the recent discussions it sounds like being 
> part of Apache will force us to backtrack quite a bit for no good reason.  So 
> I agree that if we can't find a way to resolve the legal issues fairly easily 
> then maybe we shouldn't be an Apache project yet.


Agreed. +1 :) What needs deciding is what we think 'fairly easily' is.

Currently I see us needing to:

1) remove some jars from SVN and have Ant post a message to the user
asking them to put those files in place (with URLs). Not pretty, but
good and workable.

2) do the same when installing a distribution

3) have a plan for required dependencies (namely Hibernate). JSR 220
seems like a good eventual plan, we just have to get a feel for the
timing. We're already on the right version of Hibernate right?

Then we have to decide how long we release 'forks' at java.net and
when we can start to release at apache.org. 1.3 is looking like a
java.net; and it sounds like 2.0 wants to release very quickly so that
would imply java.net there too.

So... is the above too far from 'fairly easily'? Should we be talking
about extracting to java.net, or about modifying things?

Hen

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