Hi, this is my first post on the roller lists.

I have a request related to paging back to previous blog
posts using the calendar.

Do not provide a link back to the previous month/day/year if
you are beyond the blogs first post and of course don't link
to a future month/year.

This prevents bots from recursively following the calendar
backwards or forwards when there are no blog entries.

On my roller site I created a simple archives page that lists
links with the title for every blog entry. I did this so that
search engines get an opportunity to index all of the blog entries.
I did this by creating a simple JavaBean which uses the Roller API.
This JavaBean can then be used in a simple JSP page which just lists
the archived links/titles.

Regards,

Glenn Nielsen

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:50:41PM -0500, Dave Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Nov 29, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Allen Gilliland wrote:
> >gotcha.  definitely seems like something we should continue to have.
> 
> Yep, we need some way to page back in time.
> 
> 
> >i will admit though, that i think our weblog entry pagification is a 
> >bit quirky and messed up.  i don't use it, so it doesn't bother me 
> >much, but i know of 2 things that i've noted in the past.
> >
> >1. the next/previous links don't work properly for permalinks.  
> >previous works, but next always goes to the most recent entry.
> 
> That's how it should work on a single entry page.
> 
> 
> >2. a date based archive like /page/20050920 shows a full page of 
> >entries rather than just the entries from that day.  why?
> 
> That's how Roller has always worked, and it's wrong. It causes cache 
> duplication and it can even prevent people from viewing entries. For 
> example, let's say you have 50 posts on one day, but you're blog is 
> configured to show only the most recent 15 entries. You miss entries 16 
> through 50.
> 
> 
> >it seems to me that we should support all 3 date based urls, /2005, 
> >/200509, /20050920, and each should be limited to the scope of the 
> >date presented.  i.e. if someone just puts the year then they will 
> >only see entries for that year, same for month, same for day.
> 
> We should definitely support single-entry, day, month and year views. 
> For the year and month views, we might want to get creative and show a 
> calendar rather than a bandwidth-busting big page of entries.
> 
> But the main page of a blog should display some number of days recent 
> posts, with the option of displaying them grouped by day.
> 
> So, if we provide access to month, day and year views, do we really 
> need a way to page back in time in chunks of X entries at a time? I 
> like that features, but it causes weblog entries to be duplicated in 
> the cache (since each also appears on a single entry page).
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >wouldn't that make a lot more sense?
> >
> >-- Allen
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 11:07, Matt Raible wrote:
> >>Look at http://jroller.com/page/raible - and scroll to the bottom of
> >>the page.  There's a link to see the previous 10 posts.
> >>
> >>Look at http://raibledesigns.com and scroll to the bottom - the link
> >>no longer exists.
> >>
> >>Matt
> >>
> >>On 11/29/05, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>I'm not sure I understand what functionality you guys are talking 
> >>>about.  Is this something that is found on weblog pages?  or on the 
> >>>editor/admin UI?
> >>>
> >>>-- Allen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 19:24, Dave Johnson wrote:
> >>>>That one slipped through the cracks.
> >>>>
> >>>>There's a next-prev macro that works on single-entry pages, but we
> >>>>should add that back.
> >>>>
> >>>>- Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Matt Raible wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>One of the features I liked in Roller 1.x was a link at the bottom 
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>a page that linked page a page to previous posts.  This seems to be
> >>>>>missing from Roller 2.0 - why?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Matt
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
Glenn

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