On 1/19/06, David M Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Allen commented just before I hit send and I agree with what he said.
>
> Here are some additional comments.
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > On 1/19/06, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Personally, I would rather wait a week after deploying to
> >> blogs.sun.com before doing the full Roller 2.1 release to the
> >> community.  I just think it's such a great way to get some real
> >> world testing on the release and usually if there are show
> >> stopping bugs we can find them and fix them within that week.
> >
> > How's the codebase work for Sun? Do you have an internal version with
> > changes, or do you deploy a pure Roller version?
>
> We create our build from Roller trunk plus some custom code tied in
> via the custom/*.xmlf files. We usually deploy to staging servers a
> week before our production deployments.
>
> I believe IBM and Javalobby are also using that custom/*.xmlf
> facility to tie in custom stuff.
>
> > ie: should it be:
> > * Build roller-2.1-rc1 and mention on -dev.
> > * Deploy that to Sun, IBM, JavaLobby, individuals, wherever.
> > * Test, debug, fix.
> > * Release 2.1
>
> That sounds about right except that we won't actually deploy the RC1
> build since we have our own build which is created from trunk at
> (effectively) the same time as the RC1 build.

How do you handle the cvs/svn of it all? Asking from personal interest
rather than anything Apache related.

Do you have a Roller trunk and then a separate directory that you
merge in for the build? I'm assuming the custom bits have to be there
at build time, rather than being overlaid on an existing build.

> > Probably obvious that I'm wanting to emphasize that we make sure we
> > don't tie the Sun deploy in as something special and hidden. Language
> > can be fickle sometimes, so just being boring and confirming that.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "something special and hidden"

There's that fickle language - meaning I couldn't find a fitting
phrase. It's a reply to Allen's:

"Personally, I would rather wait a week after deploying to
blogs.sun.com before doing the full Roller 2.1 release to the
community."

I want to make sure that that statement really means:

[modified]: "Personally, I would rather wait a week after releasing
RC-1 before doing the full Roller 2.1 release to the community. "

I agree that it's a great way to get some real world testing, but want
to make sure that the whole community is able to get involved in doing
their testing at the same time. That was the 'hidden'.

The 'special' was along much the same lines; that we weren't building
a pre-RC1 test into the release plan. That it was just an RC-1 - and
wow what a lot of bug reports.

I'm sure that's how it'll be anyway; I'm here to be a worrywart.

Hen

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