On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
After I sent that response I realized what you meant by "agenda."
You're saying that ASF people will think I want to use Open Office
because Sun told me to.

Actually, I had not thought of it that way at all. I was commenting on just the general perception that someone could believe that the ASF was promoting
Open Office by requiring its use by contributors.

Good. I feel better now. Sorry to accuse you of accusing others of accusing me ;-)


do you disagree that the conclusion
I did pose might be drawn?  If so, mightn't it be good to have ready
answers, should the community decide that it wants to adopt that format?

Yes, I guess I could see how somebody could come to that conclusion.
I wouldn't agree with them. ODF is an open standard. Multiple vendors
are supporting ODF and even if there were not, Open Office is free,
open source and multi-platform software -- that itself is available from
multiple vendors (Sun, IBM and others?).


I'm not pushing an agenda other than my own "want to use modern
and easy-to-use tools" agenda.

Yes, I got that point. Daisy and Confluence have both been mooted to fill that role, too. Too bad that something like Writely doesn't appear to be freely available to install, rather than use their proprietary site. If you
know of such tools, please let me know.

I like to learn more about Daisy. But do those really compare to a modern office suite with integrated tools like diagram and table editors and printer
support?


Anyhow... back to the original issue I brought up:

We have up-to-date versions of the user guide and installation guides for
Roller 2.1-incubating in ODF format now. We already decided to use ODF
for the user guide.

Should we have a vote on whether or not to use the ODF install guide
in the 2.1 release? If not, I'll put it back on the wiki.

I argue that:

Using ODF in 2.1 does not preclude changing to a different source format in the future (thanks to well-known, standard XML format and the OO Java API).

And I think they are an improvement over the JSPWiki versions, so I propose we:
* Ship the ODF and PDF files in the release
* Make ODF, PDF and HTML versions available on the web
* Put the release notes on the wiki, so we can easily update them


- Dave

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