Asa este, USA, afectata de grave probleme interne si cu o politica externa imperialista, se afla pe malul prapastiei. Ai invatat bine la socialism stiintific.
'in rest sauzimdebine' PS. Cauta si statisticile cu consumul de alcool ... sunt relevante. --- In [email protected], "dan_d_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stimate domnule Dicu-Sava Cristian, nu numai ca NU am evitat sa > amintesc http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/message/24748 > chiar am subliniat ca o anumita decizie este legata indeosebi de > guvernarea precedenta care incerca prin aceasta actiune sa isi "spele > pacatele psd-iste" si sa intre in gratiile administratiei actuale > americane. > Pe de alta parte, din perspectiva US, de ce sa nu recunoastem DESCHIS > si sa nu vorbim despre un subiect mai delicat si anume ca este din ce > in ce mai clara stupiditatea unei categorii periferice din societatea > americana, un fel de plavani/humanoizi primitivi,exaltati si foarte > patrunsi de povestile cu consipratii anti-americane care s-ar "coace" > in EU,care gandesc adesea la modul "noi in US suntem cei mai buni, > ceilalti de aiurea sunt niste nimeni",specimene ce transpira din greu > cand se iscalesc,majoritatea nu au reusit nici macar performanta > absolvirii unei high school(liceu),au o gandire binara suprapusa > peste un patriotism ieftin de parada/bodega, si,sub aburii de whiskey > ce le incetoseaza putinii neuroni functionali, sunt excitati de > esenta gandirii lor exprimate "magnific" prin: "let's kick some arab > asses"!Acestia sunt cei care fac de fapt un deserviciu Americii prin > exaltare, prin extremismul "gandirii" primitive de care dau > dovada,practic nefiind mare diferenta intre un (pretins "patriot" de > parada/bodega) american exaltat (catolic/altceva) si un exaltat > musulman, mai ales daca ambii se exprima si par sa gandeasca similar. > La polul opus as da ca exemplu majoritatea universitatilor US in care > profesorii si studentii,intr-o proportie considerabila, se pronunta > din ce in ce mai sceptic in privinta politicii externe a US > necontenind sa atraga atentia asupra IMENSELOR probleme interne care > nu par sa deranjeze prea tare administratia actuala in comparatie cu > imensele fonduri cheltuite in razboi, probleme din care nu putem sa > nu remarcam invatamantul public aflat intr-o situatie dezastruoasa, > sistemul de asigurari medicale, etc.De exemplu ultima concluzie a > comisiei de control a securitatii aeroportuare spune ca dupa zecile > de miliarde cheltuite in ultimii 3,5 ani, securitatea este cam la > acelasi nivelul cu inaintea lui 9/11!Grav, nu? > Revenind la ideea presupuselor consipratii de stanga europene care > alimenteaza imaginatia simpatizantiilor de speculatii "anti- > americane" ce p[rovin din europa,e evident ca aici este un fel de > gandire la nivelul 1950, ceea ce se numea atunci McChartysm, o idee > total perimata daca ne gandim ca in ultimele 2 decenii personalitati > de stanga s-au dovedit a fi mai deschise reformei decat radicali > incorsetati in gandire si incapabili de decizii de pe esicherul de > dreapta.Sa amintim numai ca incheierea Cold War/caderea Cortinei de > Fier fara vreun conflict major,s-au datorat unui reformator provenit > de la stanga esicherului politic,Mihail Gorbaciov, a carui abilitate > in dialog a fost/este unanim recunoscuta.Deci lucrurile nu mai stau > deloc ca la nivelul 1950. > Mai departe revenind la decizia neparticiparii in Iraq, eu sunt de > acord si in final putem exprima orice opinie, insa cum am mai scris, > actualul prim-ministru canadian, Paul Martin, este un liberal, fostul > prim-ministru, Jean Chretien in timpul careia s-a decis > neparticiparea in Iraq, este conservator.Cum ati vazut nici alti > guvernanti europeni care au hotarat neparticiparea sau retragerea > trupelor nu sunt nici macar socialisti,daramite extremisti de > stanga/comunisti.Si atunci unde este consipratia de "extrema stanga > europeana/americana" care comploteaza impotriva US?Nicaieri.Ea nu > este decat o GOGORITA, un produs al fanteziei unor spirite > exaltate/retrograde/dezinformate, o obsesie ce pana la urma nu face > decat sa departeze pe unii americani de realitate, exaltandu-i intr- > un patriotism desantat de parada (amestecat cu aburi de whiskey)care > se manifesta adesea prin idei extremiste sau, si mai caraghios, chiar > prin denunt pe la Ambasadele US (cum fac unii de pe grupul asta care > se fac de ras cu mesaje/amenintari cu mesaje de denunt scrise la > Ambasada US din Bucuresti, se stie el). > In ultima instanta, nu este deloc de neglijat faptul ca din astfel de > atitudini primitive/exaltate din partea unor "concetateani":) de-ai > nostri americani dintr-o anumita categorie periferica,se > alimenteaza/este intretinuta in ultimii ani nu numai o usoara raceala > politica intre Europa de Vest si US,(this is a fact), ci si o usoara > atitudine de xenofobie anti-europeana in US, lucru si mai trist > pentru noi cei cu origini europene! > La final, spre destindere dau un exemplu de problema care poate ar > face mai bine sa procupe/sa dea de gandit unor "concetateni" de ai > nostri din US in locul gogoritelor cu "conspiratii anti-americane de > stanga europene/americane", un articol din 2002 din National > Geografic: > > Global goofs: U.S. youth can't find Iraq > Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Posted: 9:42 AM EST (1442 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Young Americans may soon have to fight a war in > Iraq, but most of them can't even find that country on a map, the > National Geographic Society said Wednesday. > > The society survey found that only about one in seven -- 13 percent -- > of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for > military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, > an Iraqi neighbor. > > Although the majority, 58 percent, of the young Americans surveyed > knew that the Taliban and al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan, only 17 > percent could find that country on a world map. A U.S.-led force > attacked the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan in October 2001, and > President Bush has said he is prepared to use force to rid Iraq of > any chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs. > > The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young > people in nine countries and scored the results with traditional > grades. The surveyed Americans got a "D," with an average of 23 > correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21, just > three points from a failing grade. > > WHERE IN THE WORLD > Among 18- to 24-year-old Americans given maps: > > 87 percent cannot find Iraq > > 83 percent cannot find Afghanistan > > 76 percent cannot find Saudi Arabia > > 70 percent cannot find New Jersey > > 49 percent cannot find New York > > 11 percent cannot find the United States > > Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by > Germany and Italy, each with 38. None of the countries got an "A," > which required average scores of 42 correct answers or better on the > 56 questions. > > "If our young people can't find places on a map and lack awareness of > current events, how can they understand the world's cultural, > economic and natural resource issues that confront us?" John Fahey, > president of the National Geographic Society, said in a statement. > > National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy > makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve > geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the > society said. > > Other findings from the survey: > • Thirty-four percent of the young Americans knew that the island > used on last season's "Survivor" show was located in the South > Pacific, but only 30 percent could locate the state of New Jersey on > a map. The "Survivor" show's location was the Marquesas Islands in > the eastern South Pacific. > > • When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the United > States, only California and Texas could be located by a large > majority of those surveyed. Both states were correctly located by 89 > percent of the participants. Only 51 percent could find New York, the > nation's third most populous state. > > • On a world map, Americans could find on average only seven of 16 > countries in the quiz. Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed > could find their own country on the map. > > • In the world map test, Swedes could find an average of 13 of the > 16 countries. Germans and Italians were next, with an average of 12 > each. > > • Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map > the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, > three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific > Ocean. > > • Although 81 percent of the surveyed Americans knew that the > Middle East is the Earth's largest oil exporter, only 24 percent > could find Saudi Arabia on the map. > > The international survey was conducted for the National Geographic by > RoperASW. The results are based on face-to-face interviews with at > least 300 men and women aged 18 to 24 in Canada, France, Germany, > Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, Britain and the United States. > > The questionnaires were in the local language, but the content was > universally the same. > > > --- In [email protected], "Administrator" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stimate domnule Dan d n > > > > De ce evitam sa spunem lucrurilor pe nume ? > > Asa cum bine se stie Iliescu, Nastase, PSD, doreau eternizarea la > putere. > > Simpla castigtare a alegerilor pe plan intern nu le era suficienta > pentru obtinerea recunoasterii internationale si a obtinerii > beneficiilor > > (materiale personale) ce rezultau in cazul admiterii in UE si NATO. > > Sper ca sunteti de acord ca viitoarea baza militara americana de la > xxxx ar fi incheiat un contract de furnizare oua cu ferma domnului > Nastase, > > cunoscut producator al acestui aliment. :)))) > > > > Datorita permanentelor reprosuri la adresa administratiei romane, a > justitiei, a scandalurilor bancare, a coruptiei, la adresa adoptiilor > de copii, etc, PDS, in cea mai frumoasa traditie fanariota, a > CUMPARAT recunoasterea politica a PORTII, adica a "greilor" > momentului, prin trimiterea de de soldati romani in strainatate si > prin contracte incredintate direct atat unor firme americane cat si > europene. > > Trebuia in mod OBLIGATOTIU sa compenseze cu ceva imaginea de > coruptie generalizata existenta in vest referitor la Romania. > > > > O anume baroneasa venea (periodic) tunand si fulgerand si > pleca .... zambind si afirmand ca lucrurile s-au imbunatatit > simtitor. (intre data venirii si plecarii din Romania, adica in 3 > zile) :)))))) > > > > Ne place sau nu, Romania a cotizat din greu pentru acceptarea in UE > si NATO. Si o sa mai cotizeze. > > > > Cu stima, > > Dicu-Sava Cristian > > > --- In [email protected], "Administrator" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stimate domnule Dan, > > > > Va rog sa imi permiteti, ca traitor de 40 de ani de comunism, sa > am "fixurile" mele. > > "Fixuri" pe care cred ca le au si alte persoane ce au supravietuit > cu mintea relativ intreaga perioadei comuniste. > > Si subliniez: RELATIV. Intrucat nu scapa nimeni netarat dupa o > asemenea perioada. > > > > In consecinta, chiar daca nu sunt tot atat de direct ca domnul > Bouleanu, nu imi este rusine sa afirm ca si eu suspectez "stanga" > > de toate relele pamantului si de toate comploturile posibile. :)))) > > Prefer sa fiu "bolnav de scenarita" decat dus de nas de actiuni de > strangere de semnaturi pentru eliberarea jurnalistilor unde pe ultima > foaie a caietului scrie ca sunt pentru retragerea trupelor romane din > Irak. > > > > Cu stima, > > Dicu-Sava Cristian > > www.dsclex.ro ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Give underprivileged students the materials they need to learn. 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