Asteptam rastalmaciri "de pe brazda" ;-) --- Polo Europeo della Conoscenza - Verona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Friends from Romania, My name is Stefano > Cobello and I am > coordinating a network of schools in Verona Italy. I > am writing to you > beacuse we had such a disgreasful experience in our > last grundtivg 2 > meeting in Romania: The responsible of this was a > romanian lady , Lia > Elena Porfir, representing 2 organisations Phoenix > Carita Society - > Horezu -Branch ( Horezu town T. Vladimirescu str. > B1.R2 - Office Ramnicu > Valcea n. Balcescu, str. 28/ap. 217 Valcea Region > tel / fax > 0040250861945, moble 0040724467833) and the Active > Education Centres > Network and creative tourism in Romanian Rural area > IFS and FONPC member > the second adress is: Moldova : Ceahlau, Bicaz and > Brosteni - Dobrogea: > Costanta - Oltenia: Horzu, Pestisani/ Obita e-mail > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Here in attachment underneath you will find all the > e-mail justifying > what i am saying. > > 1 this persons in order to organise the parnter > meeting asked us a > contribution of 100 euro each beacuse she did not > received any money > form the national agency > 2. she asked us from Budapest to Valcea 110 euro per > person ( we refused > it) and we agreed of 300 euro return minubus, but at > the enf was a > single way and 350 euro. > 3. she organzed a stay for us, 11 persons, in a > hotel Capela, which was > disgusting place, dirty, somoked, and we had a bad > dinner at our > arrival, unberable food. Rooms and blankets were > broken and dirty. > 4. she asked us 41 euro per person for the hotel > breakfast included, and > we have found the the "hotel" price was in reality > only 16 euro per > person breakfast included. > Then she asked us 6 euro per person for the cofeee > break, 10 euro for > dinner per person and 6 euro for lunch, > 5 She also asked us 200 euro for the translator, 3 > nice 17 years old > students that she was going to pay 8 dolalrds per > day, 3 days working, > taken from a school, with the head master approval. > In the moring we decided to look for another hotel, > this one was > impossible to bear. Lia told me: You will not find > any hotel here, in > 10 minutes afterwards were already were in a decent > and cheaper hotel. > 6. she told us that she was not guilty of it because > she gave the task > to organise everything to a local agency, that at > the end we found > didnot exist. > 7. at this point we were to upset and decided to > exclude the romanian > partner form the project group, and seh was coming > again asking us > money, she also blackmail the young students, > because we decided to give > to them the 200 euro right away. > NOw, i have met a lot of romanian persons and > parnters and this is my > first time of such an experience. I wanted to go to > the police, but i am > italian you know. So i ask you to disseminate on the > network to every > network you know this information in order to evoid > that this woman > could destroy the image of a marvellous country with > extraordinary > clever persons. Best regards Stefano Cobello > Verona - Italy > > _*1st e-mail by Lia*_ > > Dear partner, > If you like to visit Bucharest it is OK.You change > our plan for first > day.We know very good our town and our region,but > not Bucharest > town-Bucharest is not our gardin. > We have the possibility"a fenster"in the first day > when you arrive in > the morning and all the group will arrive in the > night in Ramnicu > Valcea .If you like,in the first day including the > visit Bucharest > ,only for you ,please decide . > If you agreet that please comunicate me urgently.We > will make some > arrangement in Bucharest. > Lia > > _*2nd e-mail*_ > After some time I understand what you talked : > You like to visit Bucharest and come to Ramnicu > Valcea together all the > group .It is OK.The minibus will come to Bucharest > to the airport at > 19.00 h. > I regret so much ,but it is impossible to organise > the meeting in Bucharest. > Maybe B. will find a solution.Nobody sent us the > brief description of > institution .In this case it is impossible to > organise the massmedia > meeting or local authority contact.I dont know who > are the partners for > who I make some efforts.Please make an small efort > and put in email > short information about projects about > partners,objectives and > beneficiares.We need time for translate its.Take > with you the broshures > and others . > The actions for 28 aprilie are free .Sorry for my > english. > See you in Ramnicu Valcea. > Yours, > Lia > if it is > > _*3rd e-mail*_ > > Buna dimineata (good morning),from Romania > > Dear B., Is there any room in the minubus for us? > can we book another > one? Why don't we think to go together? I still miss > some information, > who can gove them to me? > > Please dont be worry. > > You will be divded in two teams .The morning team ,5 > italians people > will be wait to airport by our volunteer when they > will arrive .A > minibus will wait .Be cause they have the departure > in the morning too > in 01 may ,we will rent a minibus for comback > .Every group will have a > volunteer to guide and to offer the support . > 1. Where re we going exactly , town hotle and so on > > You will arrive in Ramnicu Valcea town ,from 250 km > away Bucharest .It > is a old town ,very famous and very nice.Here ,we > have two theatres,one > philarmonique,three museums,two universitates ,three > colllegiums and 7 > high schools . > > Here is the city of romanian chimie too.Here is the > place of salt > mine ...effect,the place of unic rocs in Europe > ...,the unic wood > monastery...the caves .you will look with your > eyces. > 2. Shall we plan to go together there? > > General plan :every day we will have the theoretical > course and in pm we > will organise the practical workshops ,focus-group > with beneficiaries > from here ,visits,short meeting with officially and > massmedia > ,traditional cultural moments ,surprises -I will > send a plan > 3. In case of negative answer how can we reach the > train or bus station? > Does anyone can give us any iformation? I have 4 > persons with me asking > daily questions. > > Not exist negativ answer .We are responsible from > your arrive until your > departure. > > The price for rent the small minibuses are :300 > Euro/Rm.Valcea > -Bucharest -comback. > > For every people who coming in the morning or in the > lunch time of 28 > april ,the costs have plus the breakfast and lunch > :lunch=10 Eu and > brakfast = 2 x 3 Eu/day > > The polish and german people :rent a small car > > The italian -rent other minicar > > Program 28 .04.2005 > > Polish team > > 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 13.45 h /lunch > Bucharest/ vist village > museum and comback 19 h to airport for take the > german people in the car > > Italian team > > 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 09.00 h direct to > Ramnicu Valcea -program > visits and discussions /lunch and breakfast > > German people > > 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 19 h -direct Ramnicu > Valcea -dinner > > _*4th. mail > *_ > > _*<Lia *_ > > _*Dear friends,*_ > > _*Very good ideas you have ;restricted what I will > offer not payed by > you .The meniu translated is our surprise.For what > that decision ,if you > not pay? This socio-cultural moments are our > specificity and traditional > colour.*_ > > _*Be attent to prices for romanian people finded by > me and negociated > special for you:*_ > > _*1.travel aeroport-Rm.Valcea-aeroport (28 apr- > 01.may)118 EU/person*_ > > _*2.intern travel two days- 64 Eu/pers *_ > > _*3.accomodation singl .room 35 Eu/day x 3 days = > 105 EU*_ > > _*4.breakfast -6 Eu x 3 =18 Eu /person*_ > > _*5.dinner 7-8 Eu x 3 =21/24 Eu/person*_ > > _*6.lunch 10 Eu x 3 =30 Eu/person (one lunch > -packet in time travel to > airoport*_ > > _*7.breakcoffe 6 Eu x 3 = 18 Eu/person *_ > > _*8. rent the fleapchart and salle part of day :18,2 > Eu/person *_ > > _*9 translation 50 Eu/person /all period *_ > > _*12 mapes,visits,cultural afternoons and workshops > organisation in > rural area -contribution of Phoenix Carita *_ > > _* *_ > > _*Aprox. Total cost 445 Eu /person *_ > > _*Please correct me if I maked the mistakes.*_ > > _*Thank you and good afternoon and wekend .*_ > > _*I hope you will like here in a nice romanian > region.>*_ > > _*All the best.*_ > > _*Lia*_ > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - > Release Date: 20/05/2005 > http://www.ales.go.ro/ http://www.laurab.go.ro/index.htm Sa facem ceea ce putem cand nu putem face ceea ce vrem ! Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! 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