> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:08:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Vasile Bouleanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re:
 
Sfanta Scriptura dupa legi inexistente si ma refer in special la ideea de Biserica Nationala. Unde in ce loc in Sfanta Scriptura gasiti aceasta notiune ?
>
si cu dtapelul tricolor pe turnuri goale cu exceptia sarbatorilor ?!
>
 
Denumirea 'nationala' a disparut din 2004.In Romania cred ca e normal sa fluture drapelul tricolor.
 
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:34:14 -0000
> From: "Gabriela Debita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re:Digest Number 2263
>
 
> In plus, prima data vorbeati de "hipnoza," care poate fi considerata
> un act de manipulare daca e efectuata fara acordul persoanei
> hipnotizate. Acum intoarceti foaia si vorbiti de "auto-hipnoza." Cu
 
Fiti mai linistita.Nu intoarce nimeni foaia.Cazurile exista, inclusiv 'child abuse', nu sint inventii.Daca nu cunoasteti sau nu vreti sa le vedeti e alta treaba.Va dau doar linkuri sa cititi.Dupa cum ati pornit nu ma astept sa recunosteti.E scris totusi.
 
I was in a cult in which we were consatntly
threatened that if we left the church we would
die being baked in a car or something like that.
I left and have not been killed. The pastor
there taught against child abuse yet practiced
it, like pulling a child away from choir to slap
him, beat him and "blast him". That is not all.
If anyone wants to start an anti-cult-child
abuse crusade, I know of a great place to start.
If anyone is interested, please e-mail me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.factnet.org/CIF/child_abuse.htm#Jehova's%20Witnesses
PSYCHOLOGICAL TECHNIQUES TRANCE AND HYPNOSIS
A number of cults use hypnosis and trance to put people into altered states of consciousness, making them more compliant. Examples of techniques that induce trance include prolonged chanting, meditation, singing and phrase repetition.
 

This is to notify you that I am demanding full repayment within 30 days of all donations that I ever paid to any church of Scientology or Scientology related corporations, approximately $8,000 . I was given an unconditional money back guarantee at the time I made these fixed fee donations I was guaranteed that if I ever wanted a refund all I had to do was ask for it and I would promptly receive it. I am demanding you fulfill the promise upon which the fixed donation services were sold to me.

My reason for requesting this refund is the services you sold me did not deliver the promised results, they were based on fraud and deception, they were based on dangerous covert hypnosis techniques that cost me in a lot therapy and related recovery costs, and because that is my legal right. For several years I worked as a course and auditing sales person in Scientology and was specifically trained to tell anyone and everyone that they could always get their fixed donations back if Scientology did not deliver the results it was promising to them and if they were reluctant to buy the fixed donation service. This agreement did not have a list of conditions for return that were ever presented or disclosed to the fixed donor. The understanding and claim made to the donor was simply, if your weren't happy with the result you could get all of your money/donation back. There was no time limitation disclosed when we made this sales claim to others when I was a staff member or when I received this claim from others when I "donated" for fixed fee services.

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/jan_houwert_refund_request.html

> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:05:20 +0200
> From: "Codruta N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re:Digest Number 2263
 
> Cred ca dorinta de a avea ultimul cuvant joaca cateodata feste :-p
 
Mea culpa.Dar si la d-vs e admirabil cind recunoasteti.O fi chic atitudinea de fronda indeosebi cind v-ati gasit o colega de sustnere.E nepotrivita atit vroiam sa spun.Pentru ca nu candidam vreunul la titlul pentru cel mai bataios mesaj.
 
Andrei


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