--- In [email protected], diana lungu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vedeti ca si-n Canada profesorii de prin unele universitati sunt actualmente in greva. > Pe acestia cum i-ati numi?
Greve exista NU numai in Canada ci si in United States si NU sunt absolut deloc semn de "marxism" decat in mintea unora cam incuiati....Greva e de vreo 2 secole o forma de protest a lucratorului indiferent ca lucreaza pentru guvern sau pentru patron si indiferent ca traieste in US sa in South Africa.Si sunt sigur ca stiti ca cele mai puternice greve au avut loc TOCMAI in UNITED STATES!!!Si DA, datorita acestor greve s-a ridicat nivelul de trai al lucratorilor, s-a ajuns la beneficii si conditii umane de trai, la health insurance si health care la un nivel ridicat, la program de lucru uman, la vacanta pentru toti lucratorii, la pensii, la salarii decente, etc. Astea toate din pacate NU s-au obtinut fara greve nici in US si grevistii fiti siguri ca NU erau marxisti, ba cred nici NU stiau ce- i aia.Cum bine spune Steinbeck in "The Grapes of Wrath" prin gura lui Tom Joad:"What's that "the Reds"?I don't know about beeing "red" or not, but I know to defend my rights!", ori cum spune Michael Moore in "The Big One": "we don't have the words "profit" or "corporation" in the Constitution, but defintely he have the word PEOPLE"!!! Inutil sa povestim aici despre cum si cate greve, cate riot-uri si cat au indurat mai multe generatii muncitorii americani de pilda din industria automobilului care lucrau in conditii sub-umane pentru Cadillac, Dusemberg, Cord, Olds, Buick, etc unde asamblau automobile pentru milionari si traiau in baraci cu o singura camera pentru o intreaga familie, la marginea oraselor separati de UN ZID de cartierele ne-muncitoresti, fara vacante, fara asiguari medicale, fara scoli decente pentru copiii lor, fara DREPTUL la sindicate dupa ce Henry Ford insusi declarase in anii '30 ca va permite sindicatele in uzinele sale "over my dead body"...Fiti siguri ca NU marxistii i- au impins la greve, NU stiau si NU ii interesa vreo ideologie de vreun fel.Si toate grevele astea nu au adus decat progres in conditiile de trai ale grevistilor si implicit in nivelul general de trai. Chiar Henry Ford n-a avut incotro si s-a asezat la masa cu sindicatele semnand pentru conditii decente de viata si lucru, inainte de ..."dead body":)... Asadar "marxismul" in simpla forma de protest prin greva este NUMAI in mintea unor ciudati care HABAR n-au despre ce vorbesc, sau care vorbesc/ scriu stalcit si limba romana si pe cea engleza pe liste internet..., asa ca va dati seama cat au inteles din tara(US)in care traiesc de atatia ani si ...degeaba... Si putem chiar simplifica idea la: Daca un deviat ca marx a folosit forma de protest prin greva in interesul unei ideologii destructive, asta NU insemna ca forma respectiva de protest implica neaparat ideologia respectiva, iar asocierea folosita ca atare nu face decat sa arate nivelul scazut de "inteligenta" al unora... Asa ca va pierdeti timpul cu tovaraselul/papagal sinistru si agitator boulean...Asta nu stie decat sa scrie prostii pe unde apuca fara nici cea mai mica urma de informatie...Am mai vazut noi pe "americanul" asta pe internet care e doar un impostor si un palavragiu povestitor stiut si aratat cu degetul de jumatate de romanii din Chicago...Ba a mai avut si tupeul sa se pretinda prin unele locuri "reprezentant"(neales de nimeni!) al romanilor din Chicago... Despre greve ale profesorilor in US in 2003 sau in 1999 puteti citi mai jos: http://www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/09/25/3f7271c34 03cc Teacher strike over charter schools shuts down Detroit schools LANSING (AP) - Public schools in Detroit will be closed today as thousands of teachers plan to attend a rally in front of the state Capitol to protest charter school expansion. Mario Morrow, spokesman for the Detroit Public Schools, said that by yesterday afternoon, the district's automated system received more than 1,600 calls from teachers who planned to miss school for the protest. School administrators also reported to the district that 3,200 teachers told them they wouldn't be in school today. Substitute teachers haven't been responsive to the district's calls for help today, Morrow said. Detroit Public Schools Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Burnley said district officials wanted to let parents know in advance so they could make arrangements for their children today. "We're also concerned about the safety and welfare of our students," Burnley said. The Detroit Federation of Teachers, the union representing about 12,500 Detroit public school teachers, asked its membership to skip classes today to protest an agreement that would allow 150 new charter schools to open in Michigan over 10 years, including 15 in Detroit. Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm, Senate Majority Leader Ken Sikkema of Wyoming and House Speaker Rick Johnson of LeRoy, both Republicans, reached an agreement last week on charter school expansion. The deal would return Detroit's appointed school reform board to an elected board next summer, although it would retain a chief executive and give the Detroit mayor the ability to reject the board's choice for CEO. Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said he asked Granholm, Sikkema and Johnson to hold off on approving the agreement before city residents have a chance to weigh in on the issue. An education summit is set for Oct. 1 in Detroit to discuss charter schools and other issues. Janna Garrison, leader of the Detroit Federation of Teachers, said the 15 new charter high schools that would be opened in Detroit with $200 million from philanthropist Robert Thompson's foundation would take needed funding from the public school district. "We want him to work with the district so we're not taking money from the critical mass to give it to a select few," Garrison said about Thompson. Garrison said she expects more than a few thousand people to attend the protest scheduled for 10 a.m. EDT protest today outside the state Capitol in Lansing. http://www.cnn.com/US/9909/04/detroit.schools/ Detroit teachers' strike issues unresolved DETROIT (CNN) -- A strike by Detroit teachers continued Saturday as the Labor Day holiday began, with talks scheduled to resume later in the day. More than 10,000 teachers went on strike Tuesday, which would have been the first day of the new school year. Their job action affected some 172,000 public school students. The teachers want more pay, smaller classrooms and more educational resources for their students. The average salary for a teacher in Detroit is $38,576, almost $10,000 less than the Michigan average. 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