Domnule Gruia, Sint mai multe motive pentru care partenerii din Turcia par sau chiar sint 'neseriosi'... Turcia participa in programele comunitare ale DG Education & Culture doar de circa 2 ani - in timp ce Romania o face din 1997. Cu toate acestea ar fi surprins daca ati vedea, chiar si in ziua de azi, pe e-grup-urile 'de contact', interventii ale unor reprezentanti de organizatii romanesti, ca si a unor profesori si chiar inspectori din Romania care deabia acum descopera cum se lucreaza in astfel de proiecte. Dat fiind ca eu am fost implicat in Socrates, intr-un fel sau altul, incepind din 2000, va pot spune cu toata responsabilitatea ca, pina acum 2-3 ani, 'cautatorii de parteneri' din Romania proiectau, pe ansamblu, cam aceeasi imagine pe care o proiecteaza, de vreun an incoace, 'omologii' lor din Turcia.
Un prim motiv al acestei perceptii este ca, intr-un astfel de stadiu al implicarii in programele Socrates & Leonardo, 'noii veniti' intr-ale cautarii de parteneri pe aceasta cale sint, implicit, 'mai multi' decit ceilalti* - care, deja, si-au construit retele de potentiali parteneri (fosti parteneri sau parteneri acrosati la seminariile de contact). 'Seriosii' sint, insa, detectabili dupa primul e-mail. Un al doilea motiv este indus de insasi aceasta metoda de a gasi parteneri - si aici avem o problema care e posibil sa apara numai in relatie cu potentialii parteneri romani (si, poate, bulgari). Sa ne imaginam ca un profesor de la o scoala din Turcia, care poate deabia a descoperit si el cum se foloseste un program de e-mail, trimite o solicitare de parteneriat pe un e-grup cu mii de potentiali parteneri. Dupa cum stim, de regula, intr-un parteneriat nu prea 'incap' mai mult de doi parteneri dintr-o tara (si asta doar in cazuri speciale). Or la mesajul turcului nostru, care credeti ca sint primii care raspund 'in masa'? Evident, romanii... Dupa un astfel de mesaj, turcul nostru se trezeste cu vreo 10 potentiali parteneri romani. Or, in aceste conditii, este, poate, explicabil ca se simte depasit - si raspunde lent sau nu raspunde la toata lumea etc. etc. Lucrurile astea se invata cu timpul - si, cum spuneam, exista si in anul de gratie 2006 cazuri similare si pe la case mai mari... * Turcia e o tara marisoara, ca sa zic asa - si nici nu vreti sa stiti ce buget au la dispozitie in 2007, in comparatie cu Romania, acushica tara membra UE :> On 12/20/06, Viorel Gruia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Domnule Branea, > Cu respect va rog nu mai lasati asemenea mesaje sa > treaca. Daca va uitati, toate sunt din Turcia. > Partenerii reali si seriosi se gasesc in alta parte si > nu au nevoie sa vina pe liste. Turcia este un partener > foarte neserios si de aceea vin aici. Eu am avut > experiente multiple in care si-au dovedit > neseriozitatea. Nu mai lasati ca si altii sa treaca > prin aceleasi situatii forwardand mesajele astea. > --- Lucian Branea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: M. Serkut KIZANLIKLI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Dec 19, 2006 5:11 PM > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My name is Serkut and I am a Teacher of English in > > > Agr(c)¥ (a city in the > > north-east region) in Turkey. My students are > > between the age of > > 14-18. Our city is small but we have really > > interesting touristic > > places... Let me list them > > > > 1- Mount Agri the heights of Turkey and also the > > fifth in the world > > about 5800 mt. > > 2- Noah's Ark (the ruins of it) > > 3- Ishakpasha Palace (the first heating system in > > the world and also > > the first drainage system founded here) > > 4- Meteor Hole (the second largest in the world > > after the first in > > Atalanta, USA) > > 5- Ice Cave (in Mount Agri) > > 6- And also some little and interesting other > > places... > > > > About my idea... The name is Nations' Organization > > As a House (Pay > > Attention on the capitals) As you know, Noah > > gathered one species from > > all the animals and got them to the ship...After the > > big flood when > > the water was getting lost they settled to a place > > on the Mount Ararat > > that I will send the pictures of it... > > > > This idea is about gathering pupils as Noah, and > > also that place is a > > very religious place for Christians, as far as I > > know... My students > > are all Muslim and this means gathering > > religions...And also it has > > cultural development, and so...Our project also aims > > for > > "Re-discovering and understanding the Europe", etc. > > > > So please think of it, and let me know quickly... We > > are now the > > co-ordinator of this project and this is a work for > > 3 years. We are in > > the first year of the project. We are together with > > Lithuania, Greece, > > and Bulgaria is applying with us for the new year > > and maybe you. > > > > Maybe you will have some other friends from EU > > countries¡¦If so, please > > let them contact with us. > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > M.Serkut KIZANLIKLI > > 90-505-391 03 63 > > 90-533-649 61 36 > > > > Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease > of use." - PC Magazine > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > > -- ______________ EuroAtlantic Club monitoring Romania's journey towards the EU http://www.europe.org.ro/euroatlantic_club/ mail to: P.O.Box 13-166, Bucharest 011737 e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

