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- How would you determine the foundations of
legitimacy of European legislation as compared to your
national system?

I agree with Dr. Ingolf Pernice[3] arguments that EU
legislation has a double legitimacy: it is a Union of
states and the Council represents the executiv branch
of each national Member States' government, which has
legislative powers that it lacks on respective
national scene, and a Union of citizens, and the
European Parliament represents them and it is elected
by them.

So a collectivity of Ministers, on a proposal of a
collectivity of civil servants could and must pass
binding and enforceble legislation even in face of
conflicting legislation passed by national
parliaments. The council could pass a legislation in
the face of European Parliament disapproval. More the
Council can legislate in the area that were subject to
parliamentary control at national level

I agree also with Weiler that "typical argument views
the European Parliament as the principal repository of
legitimacy and democracy"[4] in the EU structure,
known as "democratic legitimacy"[ 5]. But according
with this view, "the powers of European parliament are
weak and misdirected. The budgetary powers do not
affect the important areas of budgetary policy:
revenue raising and expenditure on compulsory
items.The possibility of denying a discharge on past
expenditure lacks sanction power."[6]

To conclude Weiler noticed that "The powers to dismiss
the Commission, to ask questions of the Commission and
to recieve answer are illusory"[7] , because the power
to dismiss is collective and does not have the power
to appoint, at best and "misdirected because the
Council is the "Villain of the Piece" in the most
European Parliament battles, at worst"[8]

To clarify our answer at the deeper structure we have
also to analyse and discuss the notions: of democracy,
integration, and legitimacy with the help of external
argument made by Weiler in his article. 

I agree with him that Democracy cannot exist in our
modern polity as in "the Greek Polis". Our days
representative democracy replaces direct
participation. His exemple is easy for our
undertsanding. "If we imagine three independent
polities each enjoying a representative democracy and
if we assume that for different reasons the three
polities decide to integrate and share their
sovereignty" [9] in the fields of taxation, foreign
trade and defense and if this decision to integrate
was democratically reached, within each polity, then
the integrated polity enjoys formal legitimacy.

He considers that "definition of formal legitimacy is
distinct from that of simple legality. Formal
legitimacy is legally understood in the sense that
democratic institutions and processes created the law
on which it is based. In our case the treaties. In
this formal sense, the existing structure and process
rests on a formal approval, by the democratically
elected parliaments of the Member States; the
Community process suffers from a clear Democracy
Deficit in the classical sense."[10]

A sistem that enjoys formal legitimacy may not
necessarely enjoy social legitimacy.It is not
compulsory also that an institution, system or polity
must enjoy formal legitimacy to enjoy social
legitimacy. According to Franck[11] "Social legitimacy
occurs when the government process displays a
commitment to guarantee values that are part of the
general political culture, such as justice, freedom,
and general welfare. Most popular revolutions since
the French revolution occurred in polities whose
governments retained formal legitimacy but lost social
legitimacy. In our example, the integrated polity
whould not be undemocratic but it will be less
democratic, in terms of ability of citizens to
influence policies affecting them. Why? Because in the
integrated polity a hugh majority of the electors in
polity A can be outvoted by electors of polities B and
C (n190). For this reason, one of the motivations for
regionalism is to enhance democracy in the sense of
giving people more direct control of areas of public
policy that affect their lives. To suggest that in the
process of integration there is a loss of democracy
does not condamn the process of integration. The
electors in polities A, B and C have important reasons
for integrating despite of this loss of some direct
control over policy, when it is made in the larger
polity. The main reason could be size, they are
aggregating their ressources, especially in the field
of defense, foreign trade. Multinational corporations,
which may manage to escape the control of any
particular polity may exist only an integrated polity
can tax or regulate them effectively. In other words,
the independence and sovereignty of the single
polities may be illusory in the real interdependent
world. Even within each polity the minority was
obliged to accept majority decisions. Why do we claim
that in enlarged, integrated polity, in which an
equally valid majoritarian rule applies, a loss of
democracy occurs?

What defines the boundary of the polity within which
the majority principal should apply? No theoretical
answer exist to this question. People accept the
majoritarian principle of democracy, within a polity
to which they see themselves as belonging.

The process of integration, even if decided upon
democratically brings a loss of direct democracy in
its actual process of governance. What becomes very
important for the success of the integration process
is the social legitimacy of the new integrated polity
despite this loss of total control over the integrated
policy area by each polity. How will such legitymacy
emerge? Two answers are possible. The first answer is
a tangible and demonstration that the total welfare of
the citizenry is enhanced as a result of integration.
The second answer is ensuring that the new integrated
poliy itself, within its new boundaries, has
democratic structures. But more important is to give a
temporairly enhanced voice to the separate
polities.This suggests that in a federation created by
integration, rather than by devolution, there must be
an adjustment period in which the political boundaries
of the new polity become socially accepted as
appropriate for the larger democratic rules by which
the minority will accept the new majority.

>From the political point of view the European Union is
a confederation, at the moment. The big debate is if
there is the time ripe for a radical change towards a
more federal structure. The Constitutional Treaty did
not solve this debated question.

Denying sufficient Voice to the constituent polities
may bring about a decline in the social legitimacy of
the integrated polity with consequent disfunction and
even desintegration.

In term of democratic theory, the final objective of a
unifying polity is to recoup the loss of democracy
inherent in the process of integration. 

This loss is recouped when "the social fabric and
discourse are such that the electorate accepts the new
boundary of the polity and then accepts totally the
legitimacy, in its social dimension, of being
subjected to majority rule in a much larger system
comprised of the integrated polities."[12]

We have seen how this notions play out in this
constructed analysis of the democratic legitimacy in
the European Union. The Union including its weak
Parliament, apointed Commission and unaccountable
Council, enjoys perfect formal legitimacy. The
treaties all have been aproved by the Community
electorate through their national parliaments in
accordance with the constitutional reguirement of each
Member State.

If there is a crisis of legitimacy it must be a crisis
of social legitimacy. The legitimacy problem is
generated by several problems. The primary factor is
that the European electorate only grudginly accepts
the notion that important area of public life should
be governed by a decisional process in which their
national voice becomes a minority which can be
overridden by a majority of representatives from other
european countries. For the first time national
parliaments are very interested in the structure
process of european integration and they consider that
simply enhancing the powers of European Parliament
will not solve the democracy deficit. In terme of
social legitimacy, there is no difference between a
decision of the Council of Ministers and a decision of
the European Parliament. To the electorate, both
chambers present themselves as legislative, composed
of Member States' representatives. The electorate of a
minority member state might consider it socially
illegitimate that they have to abide by a majority
decision of the integrated polity considers Weiler.
"The most legitimating element, from a social point of
view, of the Community was the Luxembourg Accord and
the veto power. But this enabled the Community to
legitimate its program and its legislation. The
legitimacy of the output of the Community decisional
process was at least partially due to public knowledge
that it was controllable through the veto power. The
current and potential shift to majority voting normal
rule might therefore exacerbate legitimacy problems.
Even an enhaced European Parliament, which would
operate on a co-decision principle for all range of
policies, will not necessarily solve the legitimacy
problem. The legitimacy crisis does not derive
principally from the accountabilyty issue at the
European level, but from the redefinition of the
European polity"[13] is the conclusion of our analysed
article of Weiler.

So in conclusion the majority voting exacerbates the
Democracy Deficit by weakening national parliamentary
control of the Council without increasing the powers
of the European Parliament. But even increasing the
powers of the European Parliament ( to full-codecision
on the most important plan) does not holly solve the
problem. 

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[1] J.H.H. Weiler, the Transformation of Europe, Yale
Law Jurnal, Yale Law Journal Compagny, June,1991,

p.21

[2]Ingolf Pernice, Course text, Introduction to
European Law

http://cife. iliasnet. de/ilias. php?baseClass=
ilLMPresentation GUI&ref_id= 155

[3]Ibidem, Chapter 6 European Decision -making and the
role of national parliaments

[4] J.H.H. Weiler, Capter 2. Challenges of "Democracy"
and "Legitimacy" , the Transformation of Europe, Yale
Law Jurnal, Yale Law Journal Compagny, June,1991,

[5] the problem of democratic structure is addressed
this way by the Dublin Summit, Annexe 1, reprinted in
Conclusions of the European Council Dublin 25 &26 June
1990, EUROPE DOC. ( no. 1632/1963) 9 ( June 29, 1990)

[6] Ibidem,p.39

[7] Ibidem

[8] Ibidem

[9] Ibidem

[10] Ibidem,p.40

[11] Ibidem

[12] Ibidem,41

[13] Ibidem,42



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