I guess I mean in it all, wouldn't it be better to get an actual instance up,
where we can make sure it works how we want, before we worry about how to get
from state a to b (like what you are doing with webcit-ng)  
>  Tue May 09 2017 03:56:48 PM EDT from bennabiy @ Uncensored  Subject: Re:
>Progress?
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>Agreed on the timing thing. As long as we are keeping that in mind, that is
>"Good Enough For Now"...   
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>Can you possibly make a version which does not "upgrade" per se, and just
>starts with the correct data structure, and I could import the data into it
>for testing through imapcopy or the like (which would also stop me from doing
>such a jump with my production machine to test actual use case, and allow me
>to corner test before committing all of our data to the new format until it
>is ready)  
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>Not sure if that made sense, but I am encouraged this is making some
>progress. Please let me know if you need me to test anything.  
>>  Tue May 09 2017 11:42:24 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored 
>>Subject: Re: Progress?
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>>Changing the table format is the easy part.  The time consuming part is
>>writing the code to convert the old data format, add it to export/import,
>>etc.  So it'll take a bit of time.  But I think it's worth it to get rid of
>>a piece of the data model I've never liked too much.  
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>>I have some thoughts about mixed mode authentication (LDAP + others) a
>>little further down the road.  For public sites (and maybe others) it's
>>clear that OpenID has lost.  100% of the OpenID logins we got at Uncensored
>>were from people pushing the "Log in with Google" button, and that stopped
>>the moment Google pulled the plug on their OpenID server.  We currently keep
>>a table that maps OpenID URIs to Citadel accounts.  That can get replaced
>>with something of the form  
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>>[auth source] / [identifier within that auth source] ----> [local Citadel
>>account]  
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>>The auth sources can then be not only OpenID (if we even keep it) but also
>>things like SAML, OAuth, Fecesbook Connect (damn you to the hottest part of
>>hell, Zuckerberg) and, of course, LDAP.  
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>>Keep in mind that this is just vision casting for the time being.  It
>>validates that what we're building now won't box us into a corner where we
>>can't do that easily.  But I'm thinking it's probably something to implement
>>some time after WebCit-NG is up and running.  
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