Feivel is trying to do debian packaging...  

   

<feivel> Anyone with an idea about the grave bugs under
bugs.debian.org/citadel-server?  

<bennabiy> feivel: I would use the easy install method rather than the debian
repository  

<feivel> bennabiy: why?  

<bennabiy> I do not know who did the packaging for the debian files, but they
are out of date  

<bennabiy> the easy install builds citadel for your use, and keeps everything
in one place, and is the most supported way to do it  

<bennabiy> and you are more likely to receive quicker bug fixes  

<feivel> well, to answer your first implied question, that would be me  

<feivel> and they are out of date because it's so difficult to see new
version from looking at the website  

<bennabiy> feivel: best is to follow the git repo at code.citadel.org  

<bennabiy> http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=summary  

<feivel> quite frankly I do not at all agree on using an external packaging
over the distribution specific one  

<feivel> it'd be better to find a better way to keep the Debian packages up
to date  

<bennabiy> feivel: external packaging?  

<feivel> btw the website you mention shows Release_902 as the latest tag  

<feivel> bennabiy: external as in not inside Debian, not being part of the
packaging system  

<bennabiy> yes, as a tag, master is currently 911 or 912  

<bennabiy> feivel: up to you. I know citadel builds on debian just fine  

<bennabiy> and installs fine  

<feivel> and you find that out how?  

<feivel> isn't this what tags are meant for?  

<bennabiy> Yes, although it is now a rolling release and there are a couple
changes which are being done with the software which warrants a fast release
cycle  

<bennabiy> 3 weeks ago 910 was done, and I know master is at least 911  

<feivel> fine by me, just almost impossible to find as a packager  

<feivel> obviously one solution is to remove the packages from Debian, if
that is what this community would prefer  

<bennabiy> That would be a question for IG, and he is best reached on
uncensored.citadel.org  

<bennabiy> He does not come in here very often  

<bennabiy> at one point there was someone else who was doing debian builds
and making packages  

<bennabiy> feivel: I will tell you this, the easy install script and compile
method produces a very clean and usable install with updates only requiring
rebuilding what is necessary.   

<feivel> that would be dothebart   

<bennabiy> feivel: yes, and he has not been doing much for the last 2 years
in citadel  

<feivel> bennabiy: and a de-install?   

<feivel> also you said it includes everything, does this mean it installs all
dependencies as well?  

<bennabiy> for i in /usr/local/citadel /usr/local/webcit
/usr/local/libcitadel; do rm -rf $i;done   

<bennabiy> feivel: you just need to install the build dependencies as per
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:prereq-debian.html  

<bennabiy> for deinstall, there are 3 directories and 2 files in /etc/init.d/
which need to be removed  

<bennabiy> everything is contained there  

<bennabiy> (there being in those directories, not /etc/init.d)  

<bennabiy> there is a map
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout to show what goes
where for comparison  

<bennabiy> granted the latest versions have moved a lot of the config files
into the database, and the goal is all of them, so there will be more updates
coming

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