This is definetely not new idea but it could make developing more effective.

2011/12/19 Igor Paliychuk <[email protected]>

> I have purpose: we should create a plan of features/fixes after release
> that should be done before the next release and assign every point to some
> devs. This would make developing more coordinate and avoid in future such
> cases that we have now(i mean people began to test/investigate mshtml bug
> only when we began to talk about release and all the rest of time before it
> was untouched)
> Sorry for long sentence :)
>
>
> 2011/12/19 Aleksey Bragin <[email protected]>
>
>> Yes, that's what I'm appealing to. Though I really wish our OS becomes
>> mature enough, 0.3.14 is not a release advised for production usage.
>>
>> I highly appreciate Olaf's efforts to raise the quality of every release,
>> though. And whenever possible I agree with his arguments and just sit down
>> and chase bugs myself if noone else wants to.
>> It's just that remaining mm code can't be rewritten within a short period
>> of time. That's why I propose to release with a known bug.
>>
>> WBR,
>> Aleksey Bragin.
>>
>>
>> On 19.12.2011 15:08, Adam wrote:
>>
>>> Thing is that this is a pre-alpha operating system. The "0.x" basically
>>> indicates it is not finished. Sure the release should be special but
>>> strictly speaking it should be done. The new MM can wait (IMO) up until
>>> 0.3.15 - there's little point worrying about it in the next release.
>>>
>>> So long as this isn't a blocker (ie. one can just use 128MB instead of
>>> 64MB to resolve this) then you may as well release it.
>>>
>>> I remember 0.3.11 well. Networking on it was horrible and often I had
>>> trouble trying to get the cards to work on VBox and QEMU - it was still
>>> release wasn't it?
>>>
>>> If one was to wait until every little bug was fixed before releasing,
>>> then one should review the purpose of a release. Especially a
>>> *pre-alpha* release. There should (IMO) be a "Known Issues" for
>>> situations like this.
>>>
>>> As a result I have no objection branching now.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:22:24 +0100
>>> Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  +1 to Caemyr
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:15 PM,<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  It is NOT a vbox issue. If we release with this bug, it will bite
>>>>> us back for long. Sometimes, its better to delay than to release a
>>>>> bugger.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 18-12-2011 22:49, Aleksey Bragin schreef:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try other virtual machines for now, this is the only thing I
>>>>>>> can advise until it's fixed.
>>>>>>> VMWare Workstation (Player), Parallels Workstation, they don't
>>>>>>> exhibit the bug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 64MB VMware Workstation 8 (64bit, Win7-ultimate x64) guest hangs
>>>>>> all the same, on MSHTML.DLL. Takes a while though :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It implies:
>>>>>> - if your machine has low memory you'll run into this issue
>>>>>> - if your machine has enough memory you might run into this issue,
>>>>>> depending on the machine/emulator/virtualiser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As p1 runs with 32MB and p3 runs with 40MB it's a shame to see p2
>>>>>> require about double this memory (or up to 512MB in some cases).
>>>>>> On the other hand, it allows ROS to actually run apps in p3
>>>>>> instead of only looking at a nice system tray and desktop picture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best of luck releasing 0.3.14, developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards
>>>>> Caemyr
>>>>>
>>>>>
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