I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and get someone in charge of
operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC.

Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or something?

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mark Jansen <learn0more+...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We can always try it out?
> If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the
> channel.
>
> On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) <gigah...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel being only for
> development
> > talk, things should remain mostly as they are now.
> >
> > In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic
> > conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those
> thigns
> > are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear
> rooms
> > set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all the
> > offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel.
> >
> > It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason
> to
> > be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not
> true.
> >
> > I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out of
> > hand.
> >
> > On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belu...@sfr.fr>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally
> >> #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove
> the
> >> moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same phenomenon
> to
> >> occur in #reactos-dev too.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> De : Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de David
> >> Quintana (gigaherz)
> >> Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
> >> À : ReactOS Development List
> >> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I approve the idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <co...@reactos.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all!
> >>
> >> As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
> >> channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
> >> talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
> >> topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
> >> notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
> >>
> >> This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way to
> >> interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
> >> questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
> >> maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some contributors
> >> have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students shall
> >> submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
> >> How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
> >> exclusive club?
> >>
> >> Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
> >> #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
> >> Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
> >> too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if nothing
> >> else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
> >> it's fully in their hands.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
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