On Jun 29, 2006, at 2:27 PM, John Siracusa wrote:

> Well, you can't have it both ways.  Either you want memory to be
> shared, in which case all the class setup and initialization can only
> happen once, in the Apache parent process, before the first fork, or
> you want everything to update "in real time" with db schema changes,
> in which case each apache child will now have its own "dirty" memory
> as a result of those updates.

i'm fine with either- i just want to minimize memory use.  i'm kind  
of pushing the limits on the boxes i have already and can't afford to  
upgrade (they're maxxed out on ram already)

> The simplest solution is to restart the server after any db schema  
> change.
yeah, that works.  i don't care that this happens, i only change  
schema in dev.  the schema change just alerted me towards the caching  
issue -- which made me worry about shared memory.

> shared memory issue, which is basically intractable.  You either do it
> in the parent before fork or it's not shared.  No (reasonable*) way
> around it.
parent pre-fork is fine.  just  trying to minimize production memory.



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