replying to myself:

the issue is because:

        privacy_override__subordinates == the object name, on the table  
user_link_privacy_override

        with_objects takes the arguments of the relationship object
        query builders take the arguments of the table name

        or=> [
                privacy_override__subordinates.link_id__viewed=> { ne=> ? },
                privacy_override__subordinates.link_id__viewed=> undef,
        ]

        won't work

        or=> [
                user_link_privacy_override.link_id__viewed=> { ne=> ? },
                user_link_privacy_override.link_id__viewed=> undef,
        ]

        gets read correctly

its a little awkward.  all that stuff was confusing for me.

just wondering-- my emails have been taking 24 hrs+ to hit the  
list.   has anyone else been getting delayed mail off this?

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