Here's my experience on Rational's Cert Tests.

First you must submit an application, and listed industry experience.  If
accepted,
Then you must have taken the recent Rational UML/OOAD course (4-days)
Version 4.2.
I don't recall the cost on that one... It wasn't cheap.....

For Consultant-Level You must complete the following exams:

-RUP            40 ish questions ( I can't remember the number)
-OOAD Part I    104 Questions
-OOAD Part II   72 Questions
-Rational Rose  Don't know yet, haven't taken it, but its listed 50 ish
Questions?

Each one is a separate test.  You take the tests via the web.  Each
test costs $295, and gets you 2 tries to pass within a 2 week period.  When
you pay, Rational gives you a logon/password, and the url to the site.  To
take the test you login to the site.  If you get disconnected before
completing the test, from the web during a session, that costs you a try.
If you do not score   80% or above within the two tries, you gotta pay
again.    Rational only considers 80% and above as passing.  I  have not got
feedback on right/wrong answers.  Possibly get that when I've finished all
of them.  Instructor will be next for me.....

IMHO, the *suggested* time allotments are GROSSLY underestimated.  RUP took
me 4hrs+  first time.  OOAD P1 took 5hr+, OOAD P2 4hrs+, and I have been a
student in the Rational Instructor Courses, have the course material as well
as the UML book, RUP & Rational Rose Installed.  I've been in the OO
business since '90.

One thing stated earlier that is very true, is if you've learned
OOAD/Modeling techniques from some else before Rational/UML, it is a bit
more difficult.

Rational/UML doesn't see things quite the same, and you can get burned on
some of the questions....

Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 1:39 PM
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I would be interested in getting Certified, however, I'm disabled and must
rely on the Web for and courses I take.  I would think that Rational would
want to take advantage of 'distance' learning (giving classes over the Web)
-- does anyone know if this exists or if there are plans to do this?

Thanks,
Rusty
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:03 AM
To: 'Eric Manley '; ''Rose_Forum '; 'Chris Gardner '
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 I don't think that is entirely true about the instructor.  I don't have the
consultant, and I am working on the Instructor certification.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Manley
To: 'Rose_Forum; Chris Gardner
Sent: 11/29/00 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: (ROSE) Rational Certification



Chris,

Yes, Rational does have a Consultant Level certification, and Instructor
Level Certificaion.  You must complete Consultant before Instructor.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:03 AM
To: 'Eric Manley'
Subject: RE: (ROSE) Rational Certification


Does Rational have only instructor certification or do they also have
product certification?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Manley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:39 AM
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Subject: (ROSE) Rational Certification




Anybody out there gone through Rational Certification? (Lately)

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the process, (ie Study
Material, etc).

Eric

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