Howdy,
I've been trying to find any documentation on Rose Scripting - specifically
the classes, properties and methods it has.
The .\script\*.ebs examples are limited.
Any ideas where such documentation may be?
Regards
Phil
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> Still sounds like functional decomposition to me also.
>
> As for what's wrong with it?
>
> 1) More likely to be misinterpreted as a design for your system,
> 2) It's a mentality thing - for me I try to forget that such a beast
> exists
> in case it interferes with my OO thought patterns.
> 3) It is unnecessary.
>
> My take is to discover your use cases and then, once you have enough start
> packaging them, which is the reverse of what is being suggested below
> (find
> chunks and break them down).
>
> Let me try an analogy.
>
> We're trying to do a jigsaw puzzle. There are two different processes
> being
> followed in order to complete the picture.
> 1) The puzzler (for want of a better word) is looking at the pieces and
> grouping them into chunks and gradually building these chunks into bigger
> chunks until the complete picture is formed.
> 2) The puzzler is working from the picture of the puzzle, breaking the
> picture into manageable chunks and then looking for the pieces that go to
> make up those chunks.
>
> Or to summarise, one is working from the BIG picture the other is working
> from the pieces.
>
> After reading this, is it obvious that my preference is to work from the
> pieces(1)? The reason for this is that the BIG picture is often flawed and
> inaccurate. The pieces are not so.
>
> Leslie.
>
> P.S. Having been out of touch with Project Technology for a while, I'd be
> interested to know when they added Use Cases to the S/M method.
>
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> "Baker, James D"
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> I agree with Jeff. Use cases should be organized hierarchically. Just
> because we use a hierarchical approach to organize them does not imply
> that
> we are doing functional decomposition. In Rose, you can use the note as
> link to another diagram approach to relate the hierarchy.
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> J.D. Baker
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:24 PM
> To: Ng, Pan Wei
> Cc: CHIAM CHOON YEE, LSD; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
> Subject: Re: (ROSE) Use Cases and UC Diagram
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> We use Shlaer Mellor OOA to break down a complex system into domains
> (subject matters).
> Each of these subject matters is analysed as a system in its own
> right....each with their
> own set of use cases. The application level use cases would be huge and
> useless and
> unmanageable without breaking the system down into lower level use cases.
> And even within
> these domains, if the system is compex enough or if the use cases have
> similar functionality
> that can be broken into lower level use cases then do it (I'm not talking
> about breaking it
> down anywhere near function level though). It makes the development
> easier.
> Call it
> "functional decomposition" if you want ....... what's wrong with it? If
> you
> look at Alistair
> Cockburn' s use case papers he certainly describes various levels of use
> cases (summary,
> user goals and tasks). If it helps to solve a complex problem then use it.
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> "Ng, Pan Wei" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Your suggested approach is what we call "functional decomposition". This
> is
> > actually one of the pitfalls of mis-applying use cases. Your update
> records,
> > delete records, add records and view records are flows of events within
> the
> > Maintain Employee Records use case. Each of them is documented as an
> > interaction diagram, not a use case.
> >
> > What you can do is as follows: Right Click use case. Select New-->Create
> > Sequence Diagram, and rename them as update records, delete records, add
> > records and view records respectively.
> >
> > Cheers
> > --Pan-Wei Ng
> > Rational Software (Singapore)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CHIAM CHOON YEE, LSD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 29 November 2000 21:59
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> > Subject: (ROSE) Use Cases and UC Diagram
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> > From what I understand, Use Case Diagram captures all the use cases
> which
> > describes the functionalities of the system in relation to the system.
> > Usually, I would want to keep the main use case diagram uncluttered,
> simple
> > and neat. However, when I do that, I lose the details.
> > As an example, I use "Maintain employee records" as a use case. In this
> use
> > case, I actually have
> > * update records
> > * delete records
> > * add records
> > * view records
> >
> > Is there any good way to layer the use cases conveniently? That is, I
> click
> > into one particular use case, if there is a layer of use case diagram
> below
> > it, the diagram will be blown up?
> >
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