Hi
You misunderstood my reply - apologies. My understanding is that Rose does not appear to have the problem in languages that use 8-bit character sets, these language sets include English, French, German, etc, etc. The problem with comments embedded inside code statements was reported and has been fixed. It should be in the next release of Rose. To answer your question I work for Rational in the UK as a product manager. Rational uses Rose internally for development of all products (not just Rose) - and this includes Java work. Hope that helps regards anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 November 2001 04:25 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > Java Code? > > > > Are your company only selling in US& UK ? > I know that Rrational is selling in other country also. > > And I also reported others bug except 16 bit character. > Next two example is part of it. > > --example 1-- > interface WhyNot > { > int whynot(); // why not > } > > --example 2-- > class WhyNot > { > int whynot( int a, // whynot > int b); > } > > The upper source is very basic. > Java programmer is often using those style but java addin > fails in reverse engineering. > Also, I often experienced rose crack in reverse engineering. > Neverthless I'm using rational rose and spending time because > of problems of java addin. > > Before example 1, I reported the same problem in class. > --- before example -- > class WhyNot > { > int whynot(); // why not > } > > > I feel like that the Rational is very passive. > I really need full testing of java addin. > I'm not a beta tester. > My working time is very precious. > > > > > Finally, you didn't answer my two question yet. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kesterton, Anthony > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 7:31 AM > To: Jeongpil An; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > Java Code? > > > > Hi > > I see your reported problem relate to using Rose Java with the Korean > character set, and you have been sent a note about the defect with > information that it will be fixed in the next release. Unless I am > mistakened - this is not a problem for people using other > 8-bit character > sets - for example, US/UK English. > > regards > > anthony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 10 November 2001 15:34 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > Hi, Anthony. > > > > Before answering for your question, > > I would like to ask if you are testing - forward, reverse > > and class design - large or real source. > > (Of course, I think that you are a Quality Assurer.) > > Also, I already asked what the rational have been using java > > addin for real project. > > > > Unfortunately, I cannot send to you full source because it is > > my company product. > > > > If it is possible, you had better search those errors to > > using my name in your Defect Tracking System. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kesterton, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:41 AM > > To: Jeongpil An > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > Java Code? > > > > > > It would be good if you could let me know the log numbers if > > you reported > > this to support - or if not - if you have an example of this > > and I will > > look into this for you. > > > > regards > > > > anthony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 09 November 2001 15:03 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Anthony. > > > I had not lost info on reverse engineering. > > > After reverse engineerikng, some attribute and method dosen't > > > exist in model itself. > > > In other words, it is imperfect reverse engineering. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kesterton, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:43 PM > > > To: Jeongpil An > > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I am sure you know this already - but I would check your > > > model to make sure > > > you *really* have lost info on reverse-engineering - for > > example, any > > > diagram may not show all the attributes and operations - > > > depends what you > > > had on the original diagram but all the info is in the > > original model. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > anthony > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: 09 November 2001 14:02 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Thomas > > > > Right. > > > > > > > > Especially Rose Reverse Engineering is buggy and many problems. > > > > For example, after reverse engineering, all attribute and > > > > method often is not displayed in real project. > > > > > > > > >I changed method signatures in the source code without > > > > updating the model before. > > > > > > > > Of Course. I saved before changing. > > > > The EJB code loss occurred when 'Connection' and > > > > 'DataSource' Object is removed. > > > > Also, some code loss is often occurred in a plain java code. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Haug Thomas > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:18 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: 'Kuhn Wolfgang'; 'Pichler Roman' > > > > Subject: AW: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > do you mean that reverse engineering is not suitable for > > > projects and > > > > forward engineering is OK but difficult to use ? > > > > I agree that forward engineering requires more desciplin from > > > > the developer > > > > to ensure that first the model is updated before making any > > > > changes to the > > > > source code. > > > > > > > > You stated that you have lost source code during code > > > > generation by Rose. I > > > > have also experienced that because I changed method > > > signatures in the > > > > source code without updating the model before. So it was my > > > > fault. When I > > > > FIRST update the model and than generate code out of Rose > > > > everthing works > > > > fine. But I don��t have any experience with Rose and EJBs > > > > maybe that part > > > > of Rose is broken ? > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > -----Urspr?gliche Nachricht----- > > > > Von: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Gesendet am: Freitag, 9. November 2001 08:37 > > > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Betreff: RE: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Tomas > > > > 1) Inner class Problem is like that is known. > > > > 2) I had not ever been reversed to RMI Class. > > > > > > > > Forward Engineering can be used in not ease but reverse cannot. > > > > > > > > Some part of source code often is disappeared in case of > > > > normal and EJB > > > > forwarding. > > > > EJB Code loss have ever been continued then recreated. > > > > > > > > Also, I have ever been sucessful to real project but It wast > > > > very diffult. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Haug Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:09 PM > > > > To: 'Jeongpil An' > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Pichler Roman'; 'Kuhn Wolfgang' > > > > Subject: AW: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > could you please tell me what kind of problems you have > > > experienced ? > > > > I am using Rose to forward engineer Java code and I haven��t > > > > experienced > > > > any problems so far. But perhaps I have not tried out any > > > > 'critical' stuff > > > > that you can probably show me. > > > > I have experienced some problems regarding reverse engineering: > > > > 1) whenever I reverse engineer '*.java' files containing > > > inner classes > > > > these inner classes are not reverse engineered. > > > > > > > > 2) when I reverse engineer '*.class' files I receive 'wrong > > > > class format > > > > exceptions' for RMI stub classes. > > > > > > > > -----Urspr?gliche Nachricht----- > > > > Von: Jeongpil An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Gesendet am: Freitag, 9. November 2001 07:52 > > > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Betreff: (ROSE) Will you use rose to generate and reverse > > Java Code? > > > > > > > > > > > > I advise that you had better not using ROSE to generate and > > > > reverse Java > > > > Cod > > > > e > > > > > > > > I have been using Rational Rose Ent. more than three years. > > > > I have been using Java addin for one year. > > > > My current ROSE version is 2001A Patch2. > > > > > > > > I think that Java addin is buggy and beta program. > > > > > > > > I reported five bugs to rational and encountered very > > much problem. > > > > It often is cracked. > > > > After " MEM_BAD_POINTER" message,for example, ROSE File is > > > > cracked and > > > > cannot > > > > use. > > > > > > > > An important reason is developed program slowly > > > > beacause of many problems of java addin, if you use java addin. > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone is fully using java addin with roudtrip > > > > engineering for > > > > rea > > > > l project. > 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