"we want everything to be record before getting to design time"

I strongly advise you to look at the best practices given by iterative
development processes (such as Unified Process and eXtreme Programming)
on this subject.

If you actually manage to be effective and successful with a waterfall
approach, please let us know how you did it!

// Martin Ros�n-Lidholm


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Sent: den 7 januari 2002 20:22
To: Cavan G Watson
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Subject: RE: (ROSE) Define Tools to Rose Elements with Stereotype (
CaseID: v0995872, (ROSE) Define Tools to Rose Elements with Stere otype)



Hello Kevin,

First, 10x for your quick answer :)

I'm Using Rational Rose Enterprise edition 2002, and
not having mixed up with what modeling use case is all
about...

The Idea of adding properties of our own came up when
we find out that what Rational designed as an element
is not good enough for us, if you don't want Word
templates to describe you element (like RUP is giving
to describe Use Case).For example, I want to use
Activity Diagram to show flow of Use Case, and want to
add to Use Case element what it is missing because we
didn't use Rose ; properties like Pre Condition and
Post Condition, ID, Requirement like and more...
moreover we wanted to add more properties of our own
project.

Stereotypes are ways of making Rose Elements less
generic than they are, with 
1) Properties common to all same Rose Elements of our
projects, that Rose doesn't give with its regular Rose
Element (Pre Cond, Post Cond...)
2) Properties for this specific Stereotype of Rose
Element acting kind differently from one part of
project to another. 

These properties I want to use before I realize the
Use Case, because it is a long lasting project, and we
want everything to be record before getting to design
time.

For now, I think I'll take your (and Rational) Idea to
add all Properties needed for all stereotypes of Rose
Element, and use according to stereotype in REI and
SoDA...

Danny
--- Cavan G Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi'ya
> 
> I don't know which sort of Rose your using.
> 
> But, probably Rose Prof or Enterprise, not Realtime.
> So I think your
> talking about an 'Analysis to Build Process
> Declaration' that might be
> 'realized'.  In Rose Realtime 2002 these are called
> configurations
> (organised by plateform, some with quite weirdly
> historical naming
> conventions, excluding WinCE3 and XP - not yet
> released, apparently).
> 
> Consequently you should consider partioning ( sub
> grouping ) your
> stereotype's and use your Implementation IDE's Build
> rules to recognise
> appropriately. (STEREOTYPE = Configuration Build).
> 
> I would be interested what tools might be applied.
> Try
> 
>                               IF (<RoseElementName>.Stereotype ==
> <SpecialisedUseCaseName>.Stereotype,Name) DO <SomePatternBuild>
> 
> You might use a select, but what ever, should you be considering 
> process and external tool models.  Export a model containing
> only one kind of
> toolName to stereotype.
> 
> I think you have got the controlled units mixed up
> with things that can
> be built and run.  Use Case's describe stuff, not
> how stuff that can be
> built does what it was built to do, that's described
> by a ... Use Case
> Realization.
> 
> Please send a reply if you get this,
> 
> Happy New Year
> Kevin
> 

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> Reply-to: "Daniel Kalderon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Daniel Kalderon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: (ROSE) Define Tools to Rose Elements with
> Stereotype 
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:39:09 -0800
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I have defined a Stereotype for a Rose Element (like
> Special Use Case).
> I know I can add toolName to A Rose Element. How can
> I
> define ToolName to a Rose Element with that specific Stereotype?
> 
> Danny
> 
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