David, I would like to provide you with another viewpoint in response to your questions regarding tools for BPM.
Although Rose can be used in such a capacity, better tools exist for incorporating Business Process Modeling into the development process. Select Component Architect (formerly Select Enterprise), represents an excellent tool for addressing BPM as well as UML modeling and might be a better fit for your client's needs. Rose is a UML modeling tool and does not address the use of any of the excepted BPM languages. As you pointed out in your posting, Rational has never actively positioned Rose as a BPM tool because of this deficiency. The UML is a system modeling language and does not address a lot of the issues that must be handled in modeling business processes. You point this out as well by mentioning that Rose lacks features that are important for Business Modeling (as example, obvious deficiencies with the visual aspects of diagrams). Further more, it is not advisable to think that you can use the same standards throughout the software development and business modeling processes. It is more advisable to use a tool that encompasses both a BPM notation such as CSC Catalyst and the UML. Select Component Architect has been a leader in integrating BPM within a modeling tool to provide a complete modeling solution. By using the CSC Catalyst notation, Select Component Architect enables you to clearly communicate the desired business workflows and processes. The tool also provides full traceablility between the CSC Catalyst and UML notations to ensure the code matches the business requirements. With the use of code synchronizers, this process is automated for you. Component Architect is also fully MDA compliant as Select's tool set has mirrored that framework since its inception. If your client is looking to incorporate business process modeling into their environment, I would suggest that you take a look at a tool like Select Component Architect which provides an elegant solution to both sides of the modeling paradigm. I hope that this helps. Colby Kenyon 303-806-8560 ext. 18 >From: "Lyalin, David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Lyalin, David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "Lyalin, David S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (ROSE) RE: Business Modeling with Rational Rose >Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:41:05 -0400 > > >I am re-submitting my original posting since it did not show up on the >forum. Thank you. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lyalin, David S. >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:10 AM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Cc: Lyalin, David S. >Subject: Business Modeling with Rational Rose > > >These are some points from the recent discussion with my clients regarding >CASE tools for Business Modeling. > >1. What is the best CASE tool for Business Modeling? >The brief version of my answer - today it is Rose by Rational Corp. >because: >a) Tool is established well in a modeling community and it has largest >market share. Good chance that the company will be around for a >"reasonable" >time length. >b) Same tool can be used for software development and for business modeling >c) Rose is UML-oriented and, again, the same standard could be use >throughout the software development and business modeling > >2. What would be possible problems/risks with the choice of Rose by >Rational >as a tool for Business Modeling? >My impression is: >a) Rational has no defined strategy on the subject: it does not look like >Rational Corp. positioning its Rose modeling tool for Business Modeling. >All >public statements from Rational regarding Business Modeling are very vague. > >b) Major efforts with Rose development are directed towards enhancing >design-related and code generation tasks at the expense of analysis-related >tasks. On practice it means that product lacks features that are important >for Business Modeling (as example, obvious deficiencies with the visual >aspects of diagrams). > >Still, it would be logical to use Rose for the Business Modeling today - >for >reasons stated in section 1. The concern is that without defined strategy >and focused efforts from Rational, role of the Rose as a Business Modeling >tool could diminish dramatically. > >Your comments and opinions would be appreciated. > >David Lyalin >************************************************************************ >* Rose Forum is a public venue for ideas and discussions. >* For technical support, visit http://www.rational.com/support >* >* Post or Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* Subscription Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* Archive of messages: >* http://www.rational.com/support/usergroups/rose/rose_forum.jsp >* Other Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* >* To unsubscribe from the list, please send email >* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >* Subject: <BLANK> >* Body: unsubscribe rose_forum >************************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ************************************************************************ * Rose Forum is a public venue for ideas and discussions. * For technical support, visit http://www.rational.com/support * * Post or Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subscription Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Archive of messages: * http://www.rational.com/support/usergroups/rose/rose_forum.jsp * Other Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To unsubscribe from the list, please send email * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: <BLANK> * Body: unsubscribe rose_forum *************************************************************************
