On Friday 11 February 2005 06:00 pm, Vladimir Savic wrote:

> > I don't think anyone has ever suggested it before.
>
> Well, I'm srceaming for that little halpers sooo much. ...ahm.. welcome
> back! :-)

The funny thing is I've been right here all along, day after day wondering 
where the hell everyone went.  It just never dawned on me that I might be the 
one who had inadvertently left the party.

> To be honest, rg is one of the best "equiped" apps. There's always that
> way or this way to do something, but gui is sometimes very strange in it's
> inconsistency (either it's inner editors behaviour or between it and other

If you want to get into honing the UI, I think

* the entire manage-midi-devices series of dialogs are seriously obnoxious to 
use.  I don't have a complete list of grumbles assembled, but I can put 
together a long one.  That thing needs some attention.

* audio management stuff really needs looking at, because of the obnoxious, 
meaningless filenames, and the number of such you wind up with after a few 
botched takes.  Delete the segment, but you still have stack after stack of 
these gibberish files lingering around.  There are all kinds of things to 
think about along those lines.

> Then I gave it to the friend. Result: my friend (musician) could not
> understand why there are so much "hidden" options (like ctrl+0-9 are).
> Sometimes they are not in the menus at all! Too many people asks for
> explanation of too simple tasks (my oppinion) on this lists. Michael
> really did a great job with tutorial - Not sure if this great application
> would be the same without it!

OTOH, even as many hundreds of hours as I spent working on it, it never 
answered enough questions for enough people.  All of this is just too damn 
hard for people just starting out.  All of it.  Not just Rosegarden, but the 
entire spectrum of audio and MIDI applications for Linux.  Rosegarden is hard 
in part because of the crazy quilt of interrelated projects it depends on to 
work.

> Hope that I was not rude and hard with words! Still, I think that post-1.0
> main job should be better interaction with users! Anyhow, this IS great
> sequencer!

Actually, I think the main job for 2.0 should be better interaction with the 
users.  The main job for 1.0 should be rounding out the list of must-haves to 
bring Rosegarden up to par as a true notation editor.  There's quite a lot of 
work to do on that front, and if we start pissing around with picky UI 
details instead, all of it will likely go undone that much longer.

-- 
Michael McIntyre  ----   Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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