Hi Michael; thanks for the response and status report.  My responses are
below.

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:47:46 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/25/2013 12:29 AM, Jim Cochrane wrote:
> 
> > It's [email protected] (the development list)
> > that I'm having problems with.  This list -
> 
> What message did you get, Jim?  I tried posting to the list, and then
> I flipped over to look at the archives, and the message was already 
> present.  You are subscribed, not moderated, and are configured to 
> receive mail from the list, so everything looks to be in order.
> 
> It's probably just SourceForge man.  We get what we pay for.

I'll include the error message I received at the end of this message,
but you must be right about the problem being a temporary sourceforge
glitch. It looks like I just happened to send my email to the devel
list and encountered that apparently intermittent error when there was
a gap in messages sent to that list (Oct 20 .. 24), making me think
that the problem might be affecting everyone.  I tried just twice and
gave up after the 2nd message (sent either a few hours later or the
next day, as I recall) bounced with the same problem.  (It was just a
tip about some settings in vim to help deal with the tab issue you guys
were discussing.  It may be too late now, but I'll try sending it again
- partly to test that it works now for me.)

Thanks for the nice report on what you and the other devs are working
on - very helpful (to me - and others, I'm sure).  I've read a lot of
the devel messages, but it's nice to have a summary in one place.  Your
search-feature project sounds quite useful (IMO, applying google's
intelligent search principles to rosegarden data).  And it's great to
hear about the bug-fixing work and the other new features - for anyone
who's wondering and googling:  rosegarden is not dead; it is alive and
well. [How's that for a google-able, high-level status report for
the curious ;-)?]

> 
> > [email protected] - is fine.  There are still no
> > new messages posted to the devel list. Perhaps the rosegarden devs
> > have locked up the list and taken their conversation private in
> > order to cook up some special surprise not to be revealed until
> > it's polished and ready to go  1/2:-)
> 
> Most of the discussion we've been having lately has taken place on 
> various bug report threads, and the list has been pretty dead.
> 
> I'm working on a search and select feature for the notation editor.
> My old selection event filter was badly designed, and never
> satisfied. This is a total redesign, based on years of experience
> with the process of turning human MIDI into something legible, and
> arranging parts written to play on one thing to play on something
> else.
> 
> The idea is that if a Rosegarden event can contain or represent some 
> piece of information, then you can search for that information.  All
> the dotted 8th notes that have a tenuto and a fingering of 3 at a
> pitch of Bb (but not A#) in every octave except the two middle
> octaves.
> 
> It is a gigantic amount of work, and a long way from being finished. 
> I'm not going to release again until I get that done, whenever that
> is. December, hopefully.
> 
> Niek van den Berg is working on a new kind of transposable chord
> entity. Instead of putting a text event with the string "Eb" in it,
> you insert one of these things, and it both comes out looking nicer
> and you can transpose it to some other key if you want.  He's doing
> this work in a branch.  The first draft is up and running, with some
> glitches.  I have no idea if this will be merged in time for the
> release or not.
> 
> Tom Breton is trying to work through various complicated issues
> related to tuplets, I think.  I haven't heard much out of him in a
> long time.
> 
> Ted Felix has been looking into things for me, to help me figure out 
> some bugs we've had reported lately, and we've been working with 
> Fernando A. Martin to get some testing and stability work done.  He 
> found some severe problems, which we have corrected, and he reports 
> being able to complete a complex project with 13.12.
> 
> Yves is working on a bug I re-introduced by fixing several bugs
> Fernando reported.
> 
> That's all the work I know about off the top of my head.  Everybody
> is working quietly, in their own time, and nobody is talking much.
> My own project is coming along very slowly.  I only get one or two
> days a week to work on it, and I'm already past 1,000 lines of code
> having written less than half the feature.  It's probably the biggest
> thing I've ever undertaken, actually.
> 
> It may turn out to be an Edsel too.  I'm thinking pretty far outside
> the box on this one, and it will either be awesome or it will be a 
> stupendous exercise in what was I thinking.

That's one of the great luxuries of working on software on one's own -
one can take risk and possibly mess up dramatically (usually not a big
problem thanks to modern source control tools) without worrying about
being yelled at and belittled, or fired, by some boss.  And if the work
succeeds, it can be quite rewarding (better than liquor or drugs in some
ways, I'd say) as well as benefiting other users.

In answer to your initial question, below is the contents of the bounce
email message I got about my email failing (probably moot at this point,
since devel seems to be working, although it might be helpful if the
problem re-occurs).  (Looking further at the message, it's possible
it's my email provider that messed up.)



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