-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris Fleming schrieb: | http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=Newton+Stewart&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=17.680923,36.079102&ie=UTF8&ll=55.218057,-3.825989&spn=1.073254,2.254944&z=9 | (The route was basically follow the A702 and then the A712, picked | because it was the most direct route and also because the A712 was unmapped) | | However having traveled down the A712, I can now see why it was | unmapped, the road was narrow windy and very slow. In fact a friend | traveling the same route took the A74(M), A701 and the A75 in a quicker | time. | | Now we need some way of tagging "slow" roads, so that we don't pick | then. I'm not sure if this would be an "average speed" tag or a you'll | only go 3/4 or half the speed on this road compared to your speed on a | "normal" A road?
a) We had multiple suggestions for using collected real-world travel-times. I'm still up for setting up a web-service to collect these. Maybe between OpenExpo next week and FOSSGIS. b) Does the A702 have fewer lanes? Is it steeper ("alt"-tag)? Does it have more curves? For the "windy" I have though of a simple physics-model a few times that not only uses the sum of segment-length and the "highway"-tag but estimates: * maximum speed a curve with a radius R can be traveled * maximum speed on differences in altitude * expected acceleration after a slow segment into a fast segment following. These speeds and accelerations are user-selected by vehicle-type ~ "car-efficient"=slow acceleration, taking curves fast ~ limited top-speed ~ "car-sporty"=accelerate more but also decellerate in curves, ~ better top-speed ~ "lory"=accelerate very slow and take hills slowly, ~ be very slow ans extreme curves) ~ ... I think this will break the usual routing-algorithms if applied to the complete path but between relevant intersections this could improve a usual time-metric considerably on windy or steep roads. (Think serpentines up or down a hill) After calculating the route it can be applied to the complete path to get a better estimate of an ETA. c) Do we have a tag for the state of the road-surface that is in actual use? Marcus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHy+OXf1hPnk3Z0cQRAql8AJ9t3HJGSgLNGv8th3uCt8NKCyFa3ACguSHA 2OISRQW1lrjjsi3F4086eUY= =3+RJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Routing mailing list Routing@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/routing