Marcallee Jackson told us "[e]ach healthcare clearinghouse maintains a
list of payer ID's.  These ID's are sometimes designated by the
clearinghouse, sometimes by the clearinghouse's trading partner and
sometimes by the payer.  I believe its this code that is commonly sent
in the ISA field."

Isn't our problem made easier if the payer tells everyone what its own
name or ID is, constrained by the allowable qualifiers in the ISA
Interchange ID Qualifier?   In the absence of the National Plan ID, we
should allow for a payer being identified whatever ID it prefers -
Anthem might prefer the D-U-N-S and Highmark the NAIC.  Some payers
might have two or more D-U-N-S, any of which may be acceptable.
Likewise, some providers will identify themselves by the HIN, others by
the FEIN.

But it does no service to interoperability if a provider, using HIPAA
standard transactions, has to make a determination like "Payer 'A' is on
CH 'B', who demands that the payer be identified by 'C' in the ISA,
except on Thursday, when it must be 'D'."  Along the same lines, do we
want to banish use of the "ZZ" (Mutually Defined) qualifier, which - as
Kepa has pointed out -  is often used to specify an ID given to the
provider by the receiving payer?

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcallee Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing'"
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Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2002 06:05 PM
Subject: RE: Payor identification codes for 837I


While a provider might bill several dozen plans over the course of a
year
it's normally fewer than 20 that make up 90% of the volume.  Even for a
large provider in an urban setting.  Depending on the number of hoops a
plan
forces a provider to jump through in order to bill electronically,
providers
may choose to bill low volume payers on paper.  For example, if a
provider
has to sign a payer specific trading partner/EDI agreement, it's less
likely
they'll bill electronically to a payer they'd only be sending a couple
hundred claims a year.

Each healthcare clearinghouse maintains a list of payer ID's.  These
ID's
are sometimes designated by the clearinghouse, sometimes by the
clearinghouse's trading partner and sometimes by the payer.  I believe
its
this code that is commonly sent in the ISA field.

Marcallee Jackson
Long Beach, CA
562-438-6613


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