Michael:

Thanks for your input.  Any good technical junk regarding Healthcare
Partner profiles (CPP) and Registries is welcome for discussion on the
list.  I have heard comments from some folks that there's just too much
e-mail on this list, but I figure there can't be enough discussion of
technical issues.

And besides, it would be far better to somehow eliminate off-topic
discussions - like the AHA vs. DHHS issue of late - if we really need to
have some liposuction done on the ID & Routing mailing list.  That's not
to say it's not an important issue, but it should be moved to the
Business Issues mailing list, with no cross-posting. I encourage folks
to please review Zon Owen's e-mail on SNIP Listserv Usage & Etiquette
Guidelines that he posted to the Business Issues Listserve at
http://www.mail-archive.com/business%40wedi.org/msg00311.html on April
Fool's Day.  Quite reasonably, Zon suggests that "[postings] to
subordinate listservs [like the WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing mailing list]
should be relevant to the specific activities and work products of those
subgroups."

Your suggestions - technically reasonable or not - seem to be right on
target for developing the Elements of the Healthcare
Collaboration-Protocol Profile (CPP).  If you were to send your
suggestions just to Chris, it would put too much of an administrative
burden on him to consolidate and share with the others on his team.
There's supposed to nothing secret in an open standards development
effort (except administrivia like meeting arrangements and coup d'�tat
planning), and this is just the right stuff to engender
thought-provoking discussions, fur-ruffling and polite arguments.

As a technical aside, I might suggest that the CPP elements be designed
in a more general fashion.  For example,  instead of a number of
elements like "ExpectedTestDate837I," "ExpectedTestDate837P,"
"ExpectedTestDate837D" and "ExpectedTestDate270," perhaps an overloaded
"ExpectedTestDate" element might do the trick where the functional group
(e.g., 004010X098 for the 837P) is specified as an attribute or
subordinate element.  This would better accommodate mechanical
processing of the XML elements in the CPP, and further, make our CPP
generally applicable to all "legacy" EDI as opposed to simply
Healthcare.

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Mattias/Tal Systems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI/SNIP Listserve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 05 May, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: CPP Data elements draft for comment

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher J. Feahr, OD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Here's the link to my proposed CPP template/spreadsheet. (thanks,
William):
> http://www.novannet.com/wedi/CPP_Elements.xls
> You may want to hold off on commenting until you have seen a similar
CPP
> template proposal that Dick Brooks has been working on.


Very, very nice...I like it. I look forward to Mr. Brooks' version, too.

Just one question: Looking through this I noticed the absence (can you
notice an absence?) of some data fields needed for an applications
developer (e.g., me).

What I am looking to do when I query the registry is to end up with all
the data I would need to create a document (837, 270, 276, etc), send an
ANSI interchange and have it get to the receiver, then have it pass the
receiver's (non-medical) edits; that is, including such things as the ap
plications identifiers.

For example, some data fields which occur to me right off the top of my
head...(270=Eligibility Inquiry)

AcceptsRealTime270           - does this Information Source (payer)
accept
realtime 270's?
AccceptsBatch270            - does this Information Source accept batch
270's?
ApplicationID270RealTime - GS ID for payer for 'realtime' 270
ApplicationID270Batch      - GS ID for payer's 'batch'  270
BatchLimit270                  - maximum number of requests per single
270 in
batch mode
RealTimeTimeout              - if no response to a 270 in 'n'
seconds/minutes,
give up.
BatchTurnaroundTime       - if no response to a 270 in 'n' hours/days,
consider
'overdue'


(Your 'NormalResponseTime" and SessionTimeout fields may cover the
Timeout/Turnarounds, but I would like to see it expanded to allow for
different times for different documents)

Right now I am focused on the 270/271 (like you hadn't figured that out)

and can provide a bunch of data fields for inclusion.

(A DOCUMENT section in addition to CONNECTION would be just fine).

To whom shall we send these suggested additions, or do we just post 'em
here and hope for the best? ( Moderator help?)

(Note: I sent this to a communications expert with whom I may work and
he may comment as well).

Michael Mattias
Tal Systems, Inc.
Racine WI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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