Yes, I was disappointed at the reticence of most of Claredi's directory
participants to share their information.  Most of it's locked down and
available only to other members of their trading "group."  Obviously,
the main purpose of the Claredi directory is to share information on
certification progress:  perhaps folks are humbled that they are not
further along in achieving compliance, and don't want the rest of the
world to know!  I guess that's only natural.

In any case, as Chris notes, the same "shyness" will affect our
Healthcare CPP Registry.  If people are not too keen on even publicizing
their address and phone number, they probably won't give away to just
anyone as to how to send transactions their way.  Even though I'm
absolutely confident we can come up with technological solutions to
expose information only to others in certain categories, that still will
not get people over their agoraphobia.  This is a social engineering
problem that mere technology will not solve.

On the positive side, clearinghouses are always anxious to advertise the
payers they support - I suppose that's a selling point to providers.  So
at least CHs will probably be happy to prime the pump with payer CPPs -
which will naturally point to portals at those very same clearinghouses!

Keep in mind that the CPP (electronic partner profile) is really not
dependent on a global, public federated registry.  These are just
standardized XML documents with machine readable information that
describe the partner's capabilities: certification, financial
institution data and EDI addresses, inter alia.  The CPP doesn't have to
reside in a public directory.  A payer could continue to do business the
old way, where a provider has to fill out all sorts of paperwork, sign
TPAs, endure hideous EDI enrollment delays and whatnot.  And at the end
of all this, he'd be e-mailed - what else? - a nice CPP!

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher J. Feahr, OD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WEDi/SNIP ID &
Routing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Electronic Funds Transfer and Security


William,

Thanks very much for this information about the banking world... as
unsettling as it is. It may turn out that other CPP information about
payors and providers will have to be semi-restricted as well. I noticed,
for example, that some Claredi customers have chosen to restrict public
access to some of their directory fields, even though the information
looks pretty harmless to me. Of course, the whole point of our CPP
record is to make it widely available... but to one's potential
partners... not necessarily to one's "competition"... and maybe not very
much of it in one query, no matter who you are.

I would expect payments in most low-volume or CPP-initiated trading
relationships to continue to be paper checks for the next few years...
mailed to the address in the CPP record. In the hi-volume relationships,
it will probably be necessary to send a voided paper check, sign a few
forms, etc. in order to set up a direct-deposit, electronic payment
arrangement anyway. So all we may need in the CPP record now is a place
to indicate preferences/abilities with respect to electronic payments.

-Chris

Christopher J. Feahr, OD
http://visiondatastandard.org
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Cell/Pager: 707-529-2268



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