On 11/08/2007 18:47 Richard Bell wrote:
I have not followed the debate in detail. However clearly the cost
to operators of upgrading their networks are significant.
Furthermore the relative growth of african networks is gaining
momentum.  Since many networks rely on the second hand equipment
markets to grow cost eff ectively and since africa has the smallest
share of existing ipv4 allocations, why not do something radical
like lobbying for afrinic to get the lions share of what's
left..................

Because that's a horribly unsustainable solution. In essence IPv4 space should be considered redundant and not viable by the time migrations begin - and that time is not coming, it has come already and you should be migrating and not hoping for more cheap IPv4 space.

There is no point in picking up lots of discarded IPv4 space if that consequently means the people giving it up will no longer be accessible by our networks. This also damages Africa's reputation and makes it less attractive for peer since no one will be interested in connecting to IPv4 space.

Growth in my opinion is viable solutions. Conversely, lots of ISP's using old Cisco gear doesn't mean growth in my vocabulary. My suggestion to ISP's in that situation would be to use ad hoc equipment with better scalability in the form OTS x86 hardware and an operating system with a good IP stack like FreeBSD or a modern Linux distro with iproute2.

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