On Jan 14, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
If the Gates Foundation was operating a service-provider network, and
providing Internet connectivity services to the public, free of charge or
restriction, and made the determination that they couldn't afford
AfriNIC's fees, then yes, that would be one edge case.

I see. It would seem you're pre-supposing significantly more requirements than whether or not the organization makes a profit ("free of charge or restriction", so a non-profit in a country that requires ISPs to restrict access would be disallowed from benefiting from this policy?). If that is the intent of the proposal, it should probably be made explicit.

That's the difference, in law, in most places, between a for-profit and a not-for-profit.

I'm not a lawyer nor am I aware of the legal definition of "non- profit" in the various venues in Africa, so I guess I'll take your word for it. However, in my experience in the AP region, the concept of non-profit as defined by law (which was typically a distinction relevant only to the tax code) was quite rare and _exceptionally_ difficult to obtain (e.g., in Japan back in the mid-90s when I looked at getting APNIC non-profit status, I believe there were two (2) non- profits defined by law, one being the Red Cross (I forget the other), and they required the sponsorship of the empress of Japan to gain that status).

The situation is probably different in Africa, of course.

As a not-for-profit, AfriNIC

Is AfriNIC a non-profit according to the laws of Mauritius? According to its by-laws:

"3.1 The Company shall be a private company limited by guarantee."

As a private company, AfriNIC may choose to do with its profits as it sees fit. In by-law 3.2, it chooses not to distribute its profits to its members, but by-laws can be amended by the company at any time.

Now, if you're saying that the rule of law is not strong enough in Africa
to support the distinction between for-profit and not-for-profit
organizations, that seems perhaps unnecessarily pessimistic to me, but
everyone's entitled to their view.

Quite the contrary. I'm saying that unlike in the US, the legal definition of 'non-profit' varies from one legal jurisdiction to another and that this policy would place a non-trivial burden of determining whether a requester (or member?) is a 'non-profit' on a small staff with limited resources (which this policy would exacerbate) who (I assume) have limited knowledge of the legal definition of 'non-profit' in the various legal venues in their service area. Given there is no agreed upon legal definition of "non- profit", this policy would create vast grey area that AfriNIC staff would need to wade through and make subjective judgement calls. Seems like a bad idea to me.

Ignoring the legal status, AfriNIC could require applicants for free IPv6 addresses to provide their by-laws demonstrating they act in a non-profit manner (add whatever other requirements are appropriate here) and require those folks who obtained IPv6 addresses under this policy to notify AfriNIC of any by-law changes (and to then pay AfriNIC the (inflation adjusted?) fees), but I suspect this would not have the desired affect (but could make lawyers who revise by-laws in various countries happier).

Regards,
-drc

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